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MDaines Wrote:
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> The Mercer quote was found on sacredtexts.com.
> I’ll leave you all to the apparently huge task
> of clarifying the groundwork that led to
> transliterating Egyptian hieroglyphs into the
> current understanding of them. If I thought there
> was a straight and simple answer out there
> somewhere, I might ask why there is such certainty
> that the images represented sounds that could be
> linked to an alphabet rather than entire words.
> I’m curious but the earliest Sumerian symbols
> (pre-cuneiform) are my subject, so I’ll leave it
> at that. Note that I don’t refer to them as
> proto-cuneiform because this is the study of a
> pre-existing symbolic (pictographic) language that
> degenerated into abstraction (cuneiform), not the
> usual understanding of it as the beginning of
> intelligent communication - that led to our
> current sad state of bickering, obfuscation and
> misinterpretation.

I believe many if not most of the glyphs began as logograms; pictures which simply represented their own design. the system was ambiguous and complex so the glyphs came to represent sound of language like our alphabet. For this reason Egyptologists miss most of the "big picture". Without understanding the nature of logograms like the "ankh" they are watching an old silent film without the picture. They are taking it apart frame by frame for study but without the fundamentals they don't understand what order to see the frames. They don't understand that perspective and context are fixed by the author in a language that has fixed meaning for every word.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 923 Duketown 30-Nov-18 12:46
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Re: Jean-François Champollion's "Opening Speech…” 255 Duketown 30-Nov-18 16:46
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 281 MDaines 01-Dec-18 08:55
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 234 cladking 01-Dec-18 14:59
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 249 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 15:04
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 226 cladking 01-Dec-18 15:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 231 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 15:15
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Re: Dream the Imparsible Dream. 189 Martin Stower 02-Dec-18 19:51
Re: Dream the Imparsible Dream. 288 cladking 02-Dec-18 20:07
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 256 Manu 01-Dec-18 15:38
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 256 Duketown 01-Dec-18 16:03
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 231 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 16:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 268 Manu 01-Dec-18 16:18
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 263 Duketown 01-Dec-18 16:29
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 222 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 17:05
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 180 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 17:33
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 247 Duketown 01-Dec-18 17:47
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 220 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:44
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 261 Duketown 01-Dec-18 18:58
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 206 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 19:07
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 255 Duketown 01-Dec-18 19:25
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 194 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 19:37
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 256 Duketown 01-Dec-18 19:52
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 183 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:13
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 225 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:25
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 186 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:35
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 272 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:42
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 198 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 20:47
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 244 Duketown 01-Dec-18 20:57
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 319 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 21:22
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 230 Duketown 01-Dec-18 22:23
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 219 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 22:32
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 233 cladking 01-Dec-18 22:50
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 216 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 22:56
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 237 cladking 01-Dec-18 23:11
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 275 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 23:16
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 292 Manu 01-Dec-18 18:24
Egyptian Language Crash Course 338 Manu 01-Dec-18 16:35
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 231 Duketown 01-Dec-18 15:32
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 180 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 16:15
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 257 Duketown 01-Dec-18 17:28
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 195 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:20
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 280 Duketown 01-Dec-18 18:30
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 271 Martin Stower 01-Dec-18 18:56
Re: The rationale for glyph sounds expressed in modern alphabet 259 Duketown 01-Dec-18 22:42


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