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Hello Thanos5150; thank you for the reference.

Above you wrote: ”Of the many workmen's graffiti marks found on the underside of the blocks that cover Khufu's southern Khufu boat pits, one notes the 11th cattle count which given only Djedfre's name is found, not Khufu, implies this was the 11th cattle count under Djedefre's reign. There is some debate whether the cattle count occurred every year or every other year, but this would mean that Djedefre was making these boat pits some 11 or 22yrs after Khufu's death/end of reign. As noted in the picture above, there is also a secondary temenos wall running over the top of the boat pit meaning this too would have been made sometime after the boat pits were made.

As I have noted before regarding boat pits in general, this practice was seemingly abandoned after the 2nd Dynasty in which for reasons unknown, if they are even related, Djedefre revived the practice

The evidence strongly suggests Djedefre was responsible for the southern boat pits


From 2001, Miroslav Verner’s account addressed the ambiguity of the interpretations among the scholars of the time regarding the then known markings discovered on the roofing blocks of the pit for Khufu I.

Ten years later, in 2011, the Director of the Waseda University Mission Team in Egypt, Sakuji Yoshimura, reported regarding Khufu II that [“i]…while the fillings around the sides of the covering stone were being cleaned, the team uncovered the cartouche of the Fourth-Dynasty king Khufu inscribed on one of these blocks, and beside it the name of the crown prince Djedefre. This, he argued, meant that this boat was constructed during the reign of King Khufu and not, like the first boat now on display at a special museum on the plateau, during the reign of his son and successor Djedefre.

The generalization does not hold; Khufu was still King during the marking of the blocks roofing the boat pit for Khufu II.



Dr. Troglodyte


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G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 2470 Thanos5150 01-Nov-18 02:52
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 408 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Nov-18 16:15
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 384 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 01:27
Khufu II vs Khufu I 454 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Nov-18 00:50
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 533 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 06:57
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 382 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 19:21
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 348 Spiros 06-Nov-18 21:14
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 381 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 23:05
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 367 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 23:34
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 413 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 23:55
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 346 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 01:55
Off topic 379 Hanslune 07-Nov-18 03:32
Misnomers [?] 369 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Misnomers [?] 355 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 18:38
Re: Misnomers [?] 365 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 18:59
Re: Misnomers [?] 345 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 19:16
Re: Misnomers [?] 392 Manu 07-Nov-18 21:28
Re: Misnomers [?] 348 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 22:39
Re: Misnomers [?] 384 Martin Stower 07-Nov-18 23:33
Re: Misnomers [?] 345 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Nov-18 23:45
Re: Misnomers [?] 380 Manu 07-Nov-18 23:58
Re: Misnomers [?] 403 Martin Stower 08-Nov-18 12:30
Re: Misnomers [?] 345 Thanos5150 09-Nov-18 18:30
Re: Misnomers [?] 481 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 23:54
Re: Khufu II vs Khufu I 402 Morten 11-Nov-18 00:55
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 354 Spiros 01-Nov-18 18:51
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 380 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 01:44
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 405 Morten 02-Nov-18 02:42
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 442 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 04:57
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 409 Morten 02-Nov-18 10:46
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 368 Thanos5150 02-Nov-18 20:48
Anyone who cites Rigano can't be too far wrong n/t 364 cladking 02-Nov-18 21:04
Re: Anyone who cites Rigano can't be too far wrong n/t 512 Martin Stower 06-Nov-18 19:37
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 481 Graham Chase 02-Nov-18 21:24
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 531 Thanos5150 06-Nov-18 03:25
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 350 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 04:28
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 398 Thanos5150 07-Nov-18 02:30
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 366 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 02:40
Maybe stating the obvious but.... 397 Warwick 13-Nov-18 17:25
Re: Maybe stating the obvious but.... 393 Martin Stower 13-Nov-18 18:17
Re: Giza Map 444 Thanos5150 15-Nov-18 00:27
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 386 Thanos5150 28-Dec-18 05:14
Re: G1 and the Boat Pits of Djedefre 429 Thanos5150 28-Dec-18 06:29


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