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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> It has been established ONLY as normal for days of
> the month (hence why I originally suggested in our
> earlier exchange that the numbers on these blocks
> were days of the month).
>


Hello Scott, I just found this exchange. If you're still around take a look at these quarry marks

Specifically, plate V, upper right. There you see the "ws" scepter in association with two different orientations of the regnal year (presumably of Sneferu in this case). You also get a sense on the variation of painting these symbols. In Campbell's chamber, according to the drawing, you only have a minimal version of this, but it is possible that this is the same crew's stamp.

And here is the same "ws" stamp in association with the 15th regnal year of Sneferu. This is the SW corner block of the Red Pyramid.

As to your question regarding ordinal numbers from "tenth" upward, take a look at Jim Allen's Middle Egyptian Third Edition, page 126. The only question regarding Allen's comment is if the "meh" (see p126) glyph would be invariably used in the OK to denote an ordinal number above 9 on a quarry mark. But you have to at least consider that the the numerals in Campbell's chamber are regnal years and that the "ws" is the same crew mark as the one which worked at Meydum. By the same token, the nfr symbol could be just another crew. There are actually five such crew symbols possible and if you're interested I can send you the reference. My take of these five crews, if that is what's represented, is that they are a distinct bunch of guys from those who worked at the quarry. These could have been construction crews which may explain why some appear together with different "Aprw's" from the quarry (See Doc Trog.'s thread OP).



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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 780 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 12:55
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 675 M. J. Thomas 13-Feb-18 17:58
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 671 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-18 18:16
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 679 M. J. Thomas 13-Feb-18 21:04
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 703 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 21:22
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 671 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:37
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 646 Martin Stower 18-Jul-18 14:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 658 R Avry Wilson 13-Feb-18 21:23
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 620 sfbey 14-Feb-18 02:52
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 664 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 03:12
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 651 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 10:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 673 M. J. Thomas 14-Feb-18 11:16
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 639 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 653 M. J. Thomas 13-Feb-18 17:57
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 694 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 18:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 704 Scott Creighton 13-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 704 Morten 13-Feb-18 22:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 690 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:31
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 614 Morten 13-Feb-18 22:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 741 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 667 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 12:28
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 735 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 14:50
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 640 cladking 14-Feb-18 15:31
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 752 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 16:05
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 654 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 16:40
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 630 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 17:29
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 743 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 17:38
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 652 Morten 14-Feb-18 18:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 729 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 18:41
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 729 Morten 14-Feb-18 18:57
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 593 Martin Stower 16-Jun-18 09:07
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 672 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 17:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 614 Scott Creighton 14-Feb-18 17:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 683 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 18:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 664 R Avry Wilson 14-Feb-18 18:17
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 636 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 19:13
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 682 Manu 07-Apr-18 02:46
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 700 Scott Creighton 07-Apr-18 15:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 728 Manu 07-Apr-18 19:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 754 Martin Stower 03-May-18 21:57
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 666 Corpuscles 13-Feb-18 21:37
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 680 Martin Stower 13-Feb-18 22:54
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 649 Corpuscles 13-Feb-18 23:55
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 657 Martin Stower 14-Feb-18 00:19
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 638 sfbey 15-Feb-18 02:29
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 647 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 10:01
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 604 Morten 15-Feb-18 18:53
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 687 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 18:04
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 654 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:17
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 658 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 18:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 625 Warwick 15-Feb-18 18:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 630 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:20
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 643 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:40
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 660 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:08
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 747 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 661 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 15:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 630 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:24
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 641 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:36
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 607 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 16:41
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 625 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 16:46
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 623 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 17:27
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 636 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 18:52
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 609 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:15
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 637 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 19:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 637 sfbey 15-Feb-18 19:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 628 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:25
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 615 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:30
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 626 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 624 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:06
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 642 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 587 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 20:56
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 620 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:09
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 624 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:19
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 625 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:34
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 606 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:53
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 617 Morten 15-Feb-18 21:58
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 611 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:06
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Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 695 Morten 16-Feb-18 06:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 630 Scott Creighton 16-Feb-18 11:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 655 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 11:21
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 615 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 575 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 589 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 592 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:17
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 550 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:24
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 551 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 564 Scott Creighton 15-Feb-18 21:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 645 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 678 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 11:45
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 709 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 14:33
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 639 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 624 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:05
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 614 Scott Creighton 27-Feb-18 16:12
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 600 Martin Stower 27-Feb-18 16:25
Curiouser and curiouser 730 Warwick 27-Feb-18 18:01
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 590 Corpuscles 15-Feb-18 21:47
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 649 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 22:13
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 586 R Avry Wilson 15-Feb-18 20:26
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 588 Martin Stower 15-Feb-18 20:39
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 615 Spiros 16-Feb-18 09:32
Re: Rotated (or horizontal) numerals in Campbell’s Chamber 573 Spiros 16-Feb-18 11:38
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Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 601 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:52
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 607 Morten 16-Feb-18 14:55
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 601 sfbey 16-Feb-18 14:59
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 617 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:13
Thank you n/t 706 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:53
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 637 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:00
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 592 Morten 16-Feb-18 15:25
Re: Items of interest in Gliddon 1847 595 Martin Stower 16-Feb-18 15:29
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