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Jacob
Please if you are going to quote me, please do it correctly. I said I can, from Ancient Egyptian Archives show direct support for what I profess.

somewhere (maybe in here, of all places)
some Text-ologist of some variety/stripe
knows where to find the reference/quote
wherein the AEs told Plato (via Solon?)
that Atlantis was just the most recent
previous civilization no longer with us
the one he's/we've heard of
- that many have gone before
going back millions of years
and there's nothing that disputes that
only text which is dubious-definitivus
in fact, there's more corroboration for that
if you take into account the full scope
of all texts available worldwide
possibly concerning the era?
otherwise, we're cherry-picking
and that's not responsible science
still we want to take ourselves seriously
but without applying blinders selectively

case and point, for the sake of alacrity/hilarity:
imagine global climate warming warning change wins
and more water in the atmosphere means more clouds
so that "the sky" is permanently overcast for ages...
suddenly, purporters of paradigms can more easily say
the world is flat, and there's no such thing as outer space,
and dare anyone to provide an observation of an alleged star
which of course makes truth-seekers seem like the silly ones
...the angels and overlords think they might wanna see that?
i can only provide a bit of text towards that, at the moment


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Jacob
Surveys of this sort only reflect the ‘as built’ dimensions, not intended dimensions. If you disagree, please provide what irrefutable evidence that exist which would lead anyone to assume any surveyed dimension of G1 are the exact intended dimensions of the Ancient Egyptian builders? That any survey does is an assumption with no irrefutable evidence addressing this conundrum. Therefore the correct answer can only be 'None of them'!

what are the odds that i park my car randomly
in the exact parking space numbered 440 x 280?
...or any such parking spot, even less than perfectly...
which has a serial number of interesting-ish possibilities
now say there's several famous estimations for that number
and where i'm parked, while less than perfectly
just so coincidentally amazingly happens to be
the dead center mean of all synonym values?
suddenly we take ourselves more seriously
as... even the funny ones get respected?
my measures of OCT
line up G3 to Phi
...crickets reign
...fortunately, we always
keep our corners numbered,
for just such an emergency?


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Jacob
So Jim, without knowing the intent of the Ancient Egyptians you, like everyone else, are just guessing and guessing is not science. Fact: No one has yet provided any evidence, let alone irrefutable evidence. supporting the Ancient Egyptians use of pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5. There is no evidence other than yours and others training and ability to find these modern mathematical operators which occur naturally in the mathematics of structures by our current system. As stated many times before: [i[ If one draws a square, the √2 is an inherent value of the diagonal within the square, similarly if one draws a circle then л is the inherent value within the circle relating the diameter to circumference. Is foreknowledge of either of these factors is necessary for the completion of either task.[/i] It seems all of the research being done is directed towards things which cannot be proved like pi, phi, √2, etcetera.


even our noble ("no-bull") Occum's Razor would caution / instruct us:
that in general, the more impressive the engineering or construction
the less likely it is that the inventor came up with it by chance...
now it is true that it is possible to build / design something simple
which has natural symmetries and other interesting thingies about it
that the ideal humble stumbler is not cognizant nor responsible for
and may even remain blissfully unaware of, just not looking for them
but the learning (etc.) curves involved in the shape of a pyramid
keeps klunking n punking one over the head and any thingy else...
so much so that its detractors are accidental backpedaling champs



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Jacob
A couple of years ago I quit looking for what couldn't be prove and started looking for what could be proved regarding the Ancient Egyptians mathematics. Here is a hint: It doesn't reside in our modern mathematical operators like pi, phi, √2, √3 or √5 since they are naturally occurring factors within our current system. As Corinna Rossi determined, from a perspective based on the available evidence strongly indicates the Ancient Egyptians were not aware of our concepts nor did they employ these factors. But I do wish you good luck on your quest to prove otherwise.

- it's almost as if every ancient text
only supports the emerging hypothesis
that the AEs could not possibly have
designed much less built the things
that their culture grew out of the shadow of these things
as does our greater larger modern world, zooming out time
the big picture larger assessment now being self evident
as we note they're models of earth, and all the planets

which it's now only more obvious that the AEs
had an incomplete idea of something we have
...a somewhat different incomplete idea of...
and what they wrote of what they knew is incomplete
seems like "the incomplete" is our greatest challenge

when knowledge = nutrition
then we also become wiser
just go easy on the sweetcakes
don't wanna spoil your dinner

plus all these ancient monuments align to each other
using the same cool / interesting significant numbers
- i think we have permission to give that more weight
than basically hearsay that's been partly discredited?

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3212 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 558 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 520 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 423 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 483 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 410 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 408 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 410 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 409 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 345 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 347 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 314 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 350 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 405 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 367 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 366 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 384 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 528 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 398 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 396 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 416 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 446 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 403 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 340 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 421 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 497 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 369 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 341 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 383 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 361 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 315 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 374 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 327 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 318 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 322 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 321 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 297 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 304 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 303 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 358 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 289 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 387 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 357 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 258 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 332 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 323 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 321 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 292 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 279 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 322 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 309 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 366 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 298 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 361 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 391 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 370 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 330 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 328 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 368 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 305 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 331 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 335 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 294 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 296 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 342 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 298 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 283 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 337 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 334 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 294 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 292 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 301 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 328 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 339 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 288 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 293 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 296 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 304 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 333 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 305 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 316 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 363 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 336 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 306 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 325 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 323 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 318 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 368 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 315 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 344 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 335 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 349 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 344 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 310 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 335 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 326 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 397 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 331 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 277 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 08:17
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 273 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 410 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 348 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 266 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 288 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 281 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 308 molder 19-Jul-18 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 352 Sirfiroth 19-Jul-18 12:05
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 328 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 13:49
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 533 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 23:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 320 DavidK 24-Jul-18 09:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 266 Sirfiroth 24-Jul-18 13:11
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 356 spaceyhippie 24-Jul-18 02:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 365 DavidK 24-Jul-18 17:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 416 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 327 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 14:36
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 446 spaceyhippie 29-Jul-18 11:01
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 329 DavidK 06-Aug-18 19:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 302 DavidK 07-Aug-18 05:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 305 spaceyhippie 08-Aug-18 09:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 314 DavidK 08-Aug-18 09:39
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 342 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 02:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 370 DavidK 09-Aug-18 08:00
ROTFLMAO! 262 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 13:22
Re: ROTFLMAO! 269 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:12
Re: ROTFLMAO! 354 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
Re: ROTFLMAO! 254 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:49
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 276 DavidK 09-Aug-18 21:39
Re: ROTFLMAO! 301 Sirfiroth 10-Aug-18 02:06
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 314 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 20:40
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 370 DavidK 10-Aug-18 07:59
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 160 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 147 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 03:46
Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 162 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 133 DavidK 28-Dec-19 10:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 144 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 160 Thanos5150 28-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 151 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 21:49
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 140 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 02:17
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 144 molder 29-Dec-19 04:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 138 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 12:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 137 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 129 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 14:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 177 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 15:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 135 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 180 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 154 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 161 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 155 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 145 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 144 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 159 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 149 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 140 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 156 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 140 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 182 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 146 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 144 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 142 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 185 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 131 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 140 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 160 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 140 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
Re: Pi vs Pudding 171 magisterchessmutt 06-Jan-20 02:58
Re: Pi vs Pudding 137 molder 06-Jan-20 05:26
Re: Pi vs Pudding 138 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 01:32
Re: Pi vs Pudding 128 DavidK 07-Jan-20 02:02
Re: Pi vs Pudding 141 thinkitover 06-Jan-20 06:13
Re: Pi vs Pudding 156 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 02:18
Re: Pi vs Pudding 125 DavidK 07-Jan-20 14:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 138 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 15:16
Re: Pi vs Pudding 137 DavidK 07-Jan-20 19:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 130 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 20:08
Re: Pi vs Pudding 131 DavidK 07-Jan-20 20:11
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 152 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:55
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