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Hello Jacob

You might have to reread the post, as you surely pose and ask questions that I have written about in the post...

You ask/say: "Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?"

And right underneath that - where you quote me - I say how time was measured according to the distances and the upright sticks and when the Sun is overhead at one stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, then when it is over another stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, etc etc. ANd would you believe that in a full day, the Earth has turned, the Sun has altered its location a little, but still the same process can be repeated by having the line of sticks in the appropriate place and still the Sun will shine directly over sticks and cast no shadows and everything has a measure...

...and now you can turn degrees, minutes and seconds into seconds, minutes and hours.

How?

Well, you bloody well do the math until you find that 60 is a bloody good number as minutes/seconds for time and distance. And then you discover that you can have 360o that goes nicely into 24 hours.

So now you have a length of distance that equates to a length of time, all based upon the Sun...

...ah, but what next, you ask?

Well, you say to yourself that 'Geez...you know, I have this measure going from here to there and it takes the Sun 'this' to go from here to there, so the Earth must be about so-big...and if it is so big, then that measure can be broken down into time-parts and distance parts, and there must be something associated with it that combines the two besides '60' and 360 and 24...

...and blow me down but now I have something associated to a circle that is based upon a measure of time over a measure of distance, and I think I have a little formula I can make up from knowing that just to make things simple for others to follow.

Why make it simple? Because it is too bloody hard to explain how to set out a line and sticks and watch the Sun play with shadows and make a measure according to feet or eyelashes or elbow-fingertips or pebbles or rods or a stone's-throw or a frog's jump or anything that I care to equate the measures of Sun and shadows to, which offers up a good Earth-size and doesn't it make you wonder how the world turns each and every day with the Sun going over...and sheesh! But here comes the moon at night. Let me try it again and see what happens.

So...'time' to rethink pi...as in time is the very first foundation for measure, according to days, parts of days, and the Earth turning in a circle.

Yeah...I think that kind of knowledge is probably 2 - 3 hundred thousand years old...but at some stage someone did a little bit more calculating and did something miraculous with that knowledge: he actually measured it and gave the measure a name...then fine-tuned it to become what the ancients had: systems based on 6s, 10s, 24s, 60s and 360. Do you really think it suddenly sprung up around 4,000 BCE?

As far as I am concerned, it was well known before 12,000 BCE.

So...go make your measure of a circle in a straight line and watch the Sun reveal a secret...

...or keep going round in circles about the centre that is right there, plain as sight, and always look outwards but don't look inwards. Everyone else looks outwards, so why not keep the trend going, hey?

As always, written in good faith :)

And a big bloody CHEERS! I'm going to have a beer and smile at myself for being such a twat.

Andrew

Does a caterpillar know it will turn into a butterfly?

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3228 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 568 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 530 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 433 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 421 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 417 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 420 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 421 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 355 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 358 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 327 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 361 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
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Re: cubit of 20.25? 377 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 394 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 579 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 408 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 407 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 425 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 510 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 414 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 350 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 431 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 507 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 380 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 350 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 392 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 372 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 325 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 386 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 337 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 327 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
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Re: extensions of numbers 332 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
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the primitive calculator 312 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 368 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 300 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 443 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 368 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 270 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 355 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 334 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 332 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 303 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 291 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 332 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 320 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 410 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 308 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 372 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 401 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 382 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 342 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 385 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 380 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 317 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 341 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 351 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 303 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 306 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 355 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 308 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 294 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 349 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 344 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 304 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
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Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 314 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 370 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
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Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 329 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
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Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 293 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
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Re: ROTFLMAO! 414 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 162 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 171 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
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Re: Pi vs Pudding 168 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
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LOL, now that was hilarious ! 152 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 197 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 142 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 152 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
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