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Hello Jacob

You might have to reread the post, as you surely pose and ask questions that I have written about in the post...

You ask/say: "Easy for you to do since you have predetermined time intervals to measure and divide time. Any information as how the Ancient Egyptians measure and divide time? Anyone care to contribute?"

And right underneath that - where you quote me - I say how time was measured according to the distances and the upright sticks and when the Sun is overhead at one stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, then when it is over another stick and not casting a shadow on the ground, etc etc. ANd would you believe that in a full day, the Earth has turned, the Sun has altered its location a little, but still the same process can be repeated by having the line of sticks in the appropriate place and still the Sun will shine directly over sticks and cast no shadows and everything has a measure...

...and now you can turn degrees, minutes and seconds into seconds, minutes and hours.

How?

Well, you bloody well do the math until you find that 60 is a bloody good number as minutes/seconds for time and distance. And then you discover that you can have 360o that goes nicely into 24 hours.

So now you have a length of distance that equates to a length of time, all based upon the Sun...

...ah, but what next, you ask?

Well, you say to yourself that 'Geez...you know, I have this measure going from here to there and it takes the Sun 'this' to go from here to there, so the Earth must be about so-big...and if it is so big, then that measure can be broken down into time-parts and distance parts, and there must be something associated with it that combines the two besides '60' and 360 and 24...

...and blow me down but now I have something associated to a circle that is based upon a measure of time over a measure of distance, and I think I have a little formula I can make up from knowing that just to make things simple for others to follow.

Why make it simple? Because it is too bloody hard to explain how to set out a line and sticks and watch the Sun play with shadows and make a measure according to feet or eyelashes or elbow-fingertips or pebbles or rods or a stone's-throw or a frog's jump or anything that I care to equate the measures of Sun and shadows to, which offers up a good Earth-size and doesn't it make you wonder how the world turns each and every day with the Sun going over...and sheesh! But here comes the moon at night. Let me try it again and see what happens.

So...'time' to rethink pi...as in time is the very first foundation for measure, according to days, parts of days, and the Earth turning in a circle.

Yeah...I think that kind of knowledge is probably 2 - 3 hundred thousand years old...but at some stage someone did a little bit more calculating and did something miraculous with that knowledge: he actually measured it and gave the measure a name...then fine-tuned it to become what the ancients had: systems based on 6s, 10s, 24s, 60s and 360. Do you really think it suddenly sprung up around 4,000 BCE?

As far as I am concerned, it was well known before 12,000 BCE.

So...go make your measure of a circle in a straight line and watch the Sun reveal a secret...

...or keep going round in circles about the centre that is right there, plain as sight, and always look outwards but don't look inwards. Everyone else looks outwards, so why not keep the trend going, hey?

As always, written in good faith :)

And a big bloody CHEERS! I'm going to have a beer and smile at myself for being such a twat.

Andrew

I once thought 'fools gold' had gold in it...and it actually does have gold in it...silly me?...

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Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 3212 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 03:26
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 559 drew 06-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 520 Sirfiroth 06-Feb-18 17:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 423 drew 06-Feb-18 23:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ???????????????? 483 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 410 molder 08-Feb-18 05:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 408 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 06:43
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 410 DavidK 08-Feb-18 10:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 409 molder 08-Feb-18 11:56
linking egyptian Pi to imperial Pi 345 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 347 DavidK 08-Feb-18 13:58
cubit of 20.25? 315 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:12
where does Fibonacci Pi come from? 351 DavidK 08-Feb-18 14:49
Re: cubit of 20.25? 405 Sirfiroth 08-Feb-18 15:08
Re: cubit of 20.25? 367 DavidK 08-Feb-18 15:15
Re: cubit of 20.25? 366 molder 09-Feb-18 03:58
Mod Note > Off-Topic Posts 384 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Feb-18 16:38
Re: cubit of 20.25? 528 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 21:02
Oh...what a shame... 399 drew 09-Feb-18 00:33
Re: Oh...what a shame... 396 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 04:47
Re: Oh...what a shame... 416 drew 09-Feb-18 06:02
Re: Oh...what a shame... 446 Sirfiroth 09-Feb-18 13:28
Re: Oh...what a shame... 404 DavidK 22-Jun-18 05:58
Re: Oh...what a shame... 340 drew 22-Jun-18 09:54
Re: Oh...what a shame... 421 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 13:32
Re: Oh...what a shame... 497 drew 22-Jun-18 22:27
Re: Oh...what a shame... 369 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 01:48
Re: well put 341 drew 23-Jun-18 08:08
To put it bluntly! 383 Sirfiroth 23-Jun-18 12:40
Re: well put 362 Manu 23-Jun-18 18:33
Re: extensions of numbers 315 drew 24-Jun-18 00:40
Re: extensions of numbers 375 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 04:50
Re: extensions of numbers 328 drew 24-Jun-18 08:36
Re: extensions of numbers 318 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:22
Re: extensions of numbers 323 drew 24-Jun-18 20:53
Re: extensions of numbers 321 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:06
Re: extensions of numbers 298 DavidK 25-Jun-18 16:13
Re: extensions of numbers 305 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:46
the primitive calculator 303 drew 25-Jun-18 23:23
Re: the primitive calculator 359 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 02:24
Re: the primitive calculator 290 drew 26-Jun-18 07:06
Mod Note > Duplicate Post Removed 388 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jun-18 12:45
Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 357 rodz111 26-Jun-18 13:55
Re: Newton's problem solved(the relation between the Roman foot and the Egyptian foot ) 259 drew 27-Jun-18 05:18
Re: the primitive calculator 333 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:00
Re: the primitive calculator 324 drew 27-Jun-18 00:01
Re: the primitive calculator 322 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 00:18
Re: the primitive calculator 292 drew 27-Jun-18 01:56
Re: well put 279 cloister 24-Jun-18 09:43
Re: well put 322 Manu 24-Jun-18 12:59
Re: well put 310 cloister 24-Jun-18 18:14
Re: well put 367 cloister 29-Jun-18 08:48
Re: well put 299 drew 27-Jun-18 05:11
Re: Oh...what a shame... 361 Sirfiroth 22-Jun-18 12:21
Re: Oh...what a shame... 391 molder 23-Jun-18 00:24
Re: Oh...what a shame... 370 DavidK 23-Jun-18 21:06
Re: Oh...what a shame... 331 DavidK 24-Jun-18 07:41
Understanding the differences! 329 Sirfiroth 24-Jun-18 12:50
No pie for jacob 369 DavidK 24-Jun-18 08:54
Re: No pie for jacob 306 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 16:44
Re: No pie for jacob 331 DavidK 25-Jun-18 20:21
Re: No pie for jacob 335 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 23:19
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 294 molder 26-Jun-18 00:51
Re: what value for pi? 297 drew 26-Jun-18 14:11
Re: what value for pi? 343 molder 26-Jun-18 21:30
Re: what value for pi? 299 drew 26-Jun-18 23:42
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 284 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 14:55
Re: 5 values for pi in GP here are 3 338 molder 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 335 DavidK 26-Jun-18 10:34
Re: No pie for jacob 295 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 15:02
Re: No pie for jacob 293 DavidK 26-Jun-18 16:46
Re: No pie for jacob 302 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 17:12
Re: No pie for jacob 328 DavidK 26-Jun-18 18:58
Re: No pie for jacob 339 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 22:59
Re: No pie for jacob 288 DUNE 26-Jun-18 19:52
Re: No pie for jacob 294 DavidK 26-Jun-18 21:18
Re: No pie for jacob 296 Sirfiroth 26-Jun-18 23:10
Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 305 DavidK 27-Jun-18 05:37
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 333 drew 27-Jun-18 06:16
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 305 DavidK 27-Jun-18 10:25
Re: Hard evidence for base 100 using egyptian maths 316 drew 27-Jun-18 21:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 363 rodz111 25-Jun-18 17:48
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 336 Sirfiroth 25-Jun-18 19:54
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 306 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 325 molder 26-Jun-18 03:19
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 323 rodz111 26-Jun-18 03:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 319 molder 26-Jun-18 21:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 368 rodz111 28-Jun-18 07:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 315 drew 28-Jun-18 09:56
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 345 rodz111 28-Jun-18 11:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 335 drew 28-Jun-18 17:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 349 DavidK 28-Jun-18 20:00
Tripping over museum rods 344 drew 28-Jun-18 23:52
Museum rods 311 drew 29-Jun-18 00:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 335 rodz111 29-Jun-18 00:37
You're as much as a complainer as anyone but you're not... 326 drew 29-Jun-18 01:24
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 397 rodz111 30-Jun-18 01:21
You down and dirty so-n-so 331 drew 27-Jun-18 05:29
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 277 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 08:17
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 273 drew 27-Jun-18 09:49
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 411 Sirfiroth 27-Jun-18 17:12
The math or the pyramid? 348 drew 27-Jun-18 20:46
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 266 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:04
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 289 Sirfiroth 17-Jul-18 23:16
Re: You down and dirty so-n-so 282 DavidK 17-Jul-18 23:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 391 spaceyhippie 19-Jul-18 10:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 309 molder 19-Jul-18 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 353 Sirfiroth 19-Jul-18 12:05
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 478 spaceyhippie 19-Jul-18 23:57
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 332 DavidK 20-Jul-18 08:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 387 spaceyhippie 20-Jul-18 21:58
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 268 DavidK 22-Jul-18 09:41
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 373 spaceyhippie 23-Jul-18 02:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 306 DavidK 23-Jul-18 08:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 328 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 13:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 302 DavidK 23-Jul-18 22:23
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 534 Sirfiroth 23-Jul-18 23:52
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 320 DavidK 24-Jul-18 09:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 267 Sirfiroth 24-Jul-18 13:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 257 DavidK 27-Jul-18 06:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 294 Sirfiroth 27-Jul-18 15:45
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 356 spaceyhippie 24-Jul-18 02:44
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 366 DavidK 24-Jul-18 17:10
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 416 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 00:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 327 spaceyhippie 27-Jul-18 14:36
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 447 spaceyhippie 29-Jul-18 11:01
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 329 DavidK 06-Aug-18 19:15
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 302 DavidK 07-Aug-18 05:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 305 spaceyhippie 08-Aug-18 09:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 314 DavidK 08-Aug-18 09:39
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 342 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 02:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 370 DavidK 09-Aug-18 08:00
ROTFLMAO! 262 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 13:22
Re: ROTFLMAO! 269 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:12
Re: ROTFLMAO! 354 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 14:28
Re: ROTFLMAO! 254 DavidK 09-Aug-18 14:49
Re: ROTFLMAO! 263 Sirfiroth 09-Aug-18 15:03
Re: ROTFLMAO! 277 DavidK 09-Aug-18 21:39
Re: ROTFLMAO! 301 Sirfiroth 10-Aug-18 02:06
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 314 spaceyhippie 09-Aug-18 20:40
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 371 DavidK 10-Aug-18 07:59
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 376 Steve Clayton 12-Aug-18 18:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 160 DavidK 27-Dec-19 23:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 147 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 03:46
Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 163 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 04:59
Re: Pi. All Pi. All The Time. 135 molder 28-Dec-19 10:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 134 DavidK 28-Dec-19 10:20
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 144 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 161 Thanos5150 28-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 151 thinkitover 28-Dec-19 21:49
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 149 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 140 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 02:17
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 144 molder 29-Dec-19 04:14
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 138 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 12:51
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 137 molder 29-Dec-19 22:31
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 130 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-19 14:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 177 magisterchessmutt 30-Dec-19 15:16
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 136 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 03:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 180 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-19 04:33
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 154 Sirfiroth 31-Dec-19 15:04
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 162 spaceyhippie 31-Dec-19 23:37
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 155 Thanos5150 29-Dec-19 04:29
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 142 DavidK 29-Dec-19 09:32
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 145 Sirfiroth 29-Dec-19 14:09
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 145 spaceyhippie 01-Jan-20 23:18
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 160 Sirfiroth 02-Jan-20 01:33
Pi vs Pudding 149 thinkitover 02-Jan-20 21:45
Re: Pi vs Pudding 141 spaceyhippie 03-Jan-20 00:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 157 seasmith 03-Jan-20 00:24
Re: Pi vs Pudding 141 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 23:06
Re: Pi vs Pudding 182 seasmith 08-Jan-20 02:54
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 03:36
Re: Pi vs Pudding 146 molder 03-Jan-20 06:56
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 03-Jan-20 18:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 144 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 00:02
LOL, now that was hilarious ! 142 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-20 05:51
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 185 hendrik dirker 04-Jan-20 09:32
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 132 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:37
Re: LOL, now that was hilarious ! 141 spaceyhippie 04-Jan-20 23:39
Re: Pi vs Pudding 160 molder 04-Jan-20 11:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 149 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi vs Pudding 140 molder 06-Jan-20 02:55
Re: Pi vs Pudding 171 magisterchessmutt 06-Jan-20 02:58
Re: Pi vs Pudding 137 molder 06-Jan-20 05:26
Re: Pi vs Pudding 138 spaceyhippie 07-Jan-20 01:32
Re: Pi vs Pudding 128 DavidK 07-Jan-20 02:02
Re: Pi vs Pudding 142 thinkitover 06-Jan-20 06:13
Re: Pi vs Pudding 156 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 02:18
Re: Pi vs Pudding 126 DavidK 07-Jan-20 14:25
Re: Pi vs Pudding 138 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 15:16
Re: Pi vs Pudding 137 DavidK 07-Jan-20 19:03
Re: Pi vs Pudding 130 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-20 20:08
Re: Pi vs Pudding 131 DavidK 07-Jan-20 20:11
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 157 DavidK 28-Dec-19 11:21
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 153 engbren 28-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 153 Sirfiroth 28-Dec-19 15:55
Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 141 engbren 29-Dec-19 01:14
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Re: Pi or no Pi ?????????????? 143 engbren 30-Dec-19 22:23
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