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cladking Wrote:
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> You do realize Egyptologists all agree it is magic
> and incantation?

Wow you got something right - congrats.
>
> How is it possible that magic and incantation make
> sense?

Try reading it with your bias left out?

Are you telling me that because one line
> in the text seems to say the king flies to heaven
> in a boat and several others contradict it that
> each is real?

Religion doesn't always make sense in the real work - look at the bible it contradicts itself constantly. Yep one can read it with comprehension.

What SENSE what COMPREHENSION can
> possibly come from contradictory statements about
> how the king gets to heaven?

Different views of religious metaphor. You really don't understand religions do you Sam?

> EVERY SINGLE THING EGYPTOLOGISTS BELIEVE ABOUT
> THEIR MAGIC IS CONTRADICTED IN THE PYRAMID TEXTS.

LETS SEE YOUR RESEARCH AND DATA THAT SUPPORT THIS - YOUR SAYING SO HAS NO VALUE.

> How can you say it is comprehensible and anyone
> with a doctorate can read an English translation.

Sorry Sam you are lying again I made no such statement - please stop lying it makes you look like a fool.

> Why does this make sense to you that their beliefs
> are contradicted and nobody can read a translation
> without years of study???

Again a strawman argument that makes no sense - anyone can read the English translation Sam - you can I can. Why do you find that puzzling? lol
>
> These beliefs are irrational.

Whose the AE? Yeah it called a religion all religion (in my mind) are irrational - but at that time and context it made sense to them and we can still read it as religious metaphor - well except you. Chuckle

Either the Pyramid
> Texts is translated or it is not.

Yeah its translated except their is disagreement over some of the words. Which is common in ancient texts.

NO MIDDLE
> GROUND CAN EXIST.

Its translated dude stop frothing at the mouth....

>Obviously it isn't translated
> because it is contradictory.

No its contradictory

See the Bible - two different version of Genesis - guess what it's translated. You come up with some really silly stuff Sam

Most of the
> individual words are translated (there are
> exceedingly few words in Ancient Language)

Oh how many? I mean we both know you don't know this because you've never considered it.

but the
> meaning is wholly lost as evidenced by the fact
> that it is contradictory. I just happen to have
> found the meaning in the formatting of the words
> because I didn't start with the assumption it was
> incantation.

No you forgot to learn the language and instead just made up new meanings from an obsolete English translation
>
> > The AE believed in gods and magic - modern
> people
> > don't*.

Actually many modern people do - read the Qur'an and Bible they will tell you magic exists - and people still follow those religions.
>
We
> believe ancient people were stinky footed bumpkins
> who were changeless and dragged tombs up ramps.

No we don't Cladking that is something YOU disrespectfully insult the AE with. It shows you're a blockhead.

> These models (these assumption) are each wrong.
> When we look at the pyramids (or anything) we
> don't see what we're looking at, we see our
> models.

We see buildings and have derived theories from our study of them.
>
> Ancient people had no words for "thought" because
> they built no models. They had no words for
> "belief" because without "thought" there can be no
> belief.

Nope Cladking again your baseless assumption that the PT is the entire AE language is wrong .

> > As explained to you hundreds of times before it
> > acted as a motivating force the same force...
>
> First, a shared belief obviously can motivate
> people.

Wow sanity

But it can't give them the ability to do
> the impossible or to act without leaving evidence.

Oh and did they?

> Egyptologists almost invariably wax poetic about
> their religion giving them strength and wisdom.
> THIS CAN'T BE.

Yes it can it acted as motivation just like modern religion do so.
>
> You must find an EVIDENCED means that is logical
> and not contradicted by physical evidence. You
> can't wave your arm and make the disc a bowl or a
> pyramid a tomb.

'We' don't, we make a theory that best explains the evidence we have....you're still struggling with scientific methodology?
>
> WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS YOURS CLADKING - OTHER PUBLISH THERE RESEARCH YOU DON'T.
>
> > The AE believed in Gods and magic - they so
> state
> > it. You stating otherwise is a bit irrational.
>
> NONSENSE!

I reject you cry of nonsense - Perfect sense.
>
> They didn't even have the word "belief".

That language thing you keep making a mistake about. They talk about Gods - that means belief, they had grave goods, that means believe, afterlife, etc, etc.

WHAT
> THEY ACTUALLY SAID WAS THAT THE GODS WERE BORN.

Some religion do that some have them already existing. You should read about it - its seems to confuse you.
>
> These thing are all in the minds of Egyptologists
> and are contradicted by the literal meaning of
> what the great pyramid builders actually said.

No what you make up about them saying - you aren't the AE and don't speak for them.
>
> > Humans are humans. You really need to talk to
> > someone about your pathological hatred of
> > Egyptologist.
>
> I do not dislike Egyptologists.

Yes you do most of what you say is steeped in an intense and irrational hatred of Egyptologists - because they reject your baseless nonsense - well the few who have read your confusing posts - you've never published anything requiring an official reply.

I believe they
> are wholly mistaken about everything concerning
> the pyramids and their builders. They have made
> so many baseless assumptions that an obviously
> functional object is mistaken for a "ritualistic
> bowl".

They why do you hate them for disagreeing with you?

They are wrong and I've shown many times
> EXACTLY where they went wrong and how they can get
> back on track but instead they withhold important
> data from me and even from all the Peers.

You've never shown that at all - you've never published a single word Sam - nothing, forum comments are NOT published materials. Egyptologist at Ma'at and elsewhere have seen your 'opinions' and have noted the vast flaws in your opinions, many many times. You simply ignore what they say.

You have replied by declaring them all fools and idiots and endless repeating of your claims while running from questions and refusing over and over again to produce your data and research.

They currently ignore you because of your irrational state of mind - as evidence by the above....
making you a person not worth talking too - so they don't.

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Cladking loses it again and proves the AE had a religion 179 Hanslune 24-Sep-19 05:08
Re: Cladking loses it again and proves the AE had a religion 171 cladking 24-Sep-19 13:37
Cladking remains confused and irrational 170 Hanslune 24-Sep-19 18:00
Re: Cladking remains confused and irrational 182 cladking 24-Sep-19 18:46
Re: Cladking remains confused and irrational 205 cladking 24-Sep-19 19:59
Cladking remains confused and IRRATIONAL 158 Hanslune 25-Sep-19 15:33
Re: Cladking remains confused and IRRATIONAL 177 cladking 25-Sep-19 17:53
You need to publish your data and research Cladking 160 Hanslune 28-Sep-19 17:01
Re: You need to publish your data and research Cladking 169 cladking 28-Sep-19 20:53
...and Cladking tries to run off...but doesn't succeed 157 Hanslune 25-Sep-19 15:38
Re: Cladking remains confused and irrational 184 cladking 24-Sep-19 18:59
Down the dark tunnel of irrationality 168 Hanslune 25-Sep-19 15:54
Re: Down the dark tunnel of irrationality 192 cladking 25-Sep-19 18:19
Re: Down the dark tunnel of irrationality 165 Hanslune 28-Sep-19 17:19
Re: Down the dark tunnel of irrationality 181 cladking 28-Sep-19 18:25
Cladking: I don't back up claims and I remain in the rabbit hole 171 Hanslune 28-Sep-19 19:24
Re: Down the dark tunnel of irrationality 192 Martin Stower 28-Sep-19 20:24
He's in danger from the magic squirrels 169 Hanslune 28-Sep-19 20:39
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Oh Marty... 176 LonelyAngel 04-Oct-19 17:14
Re: Oh Marty... 188 Martin Stower 04-Oct-19 17:26
Re: Oh Marty... 166 Warwick 04-Oct-19 17:35
Re: Oh Marty... 178 LonelyAngel 04-Oct-19 17:49
Re: Oh Marty... 186 Martin Stower 04-Oct-19 17:55
Re: Oh Marty... 167 LonelyAngel 04-Oct-19 18:01
Re: Oh Marty... 157 Warwick 04-Oct-19 18:09
Re: Oh Marty... 186 Martin Stower 04-Oct-19 18:35
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Re: Oh Marty... 192 Martin Stower 04-Oct-19 18:58
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Re: Oh Marty... 178 cladking 04-Oct-19 21:54
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Still waiting for you to present your "REAL' Evidence Cladking 178 Hanslune 22-Sep-19 22:34
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Now back to the Tri-lobe - as Sam avoid providing evidence 168 Hanslune 23-Sep-19 02:34
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