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cladking Wrote:
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> Determinatives are presumed to simply be words
> that are used to explain a thought or sentence.
> It would have been used as a determinative for
> "pyramid" whenever it was first used to mean
> "pyramid".

They're saying the glyph is an actual pictoglyph; it represents the physical object it looks like.
Then I wonder why they didn't just attach the glyph to the name, + Khufu

> I don't know when the first attestation of the
> word is.

No one on this board knows. They just skip merrily along believing whatever a well known Egyptologist says. Don't ask questions, don't look for it, just accept it because someone in authority said so, and they wouldn't be an authority if they didn't know everything about the subject, so why bother to question it. Besides it's much easier to pretend to be an armchair expert if you quote the authorities. See how much I know, I know what so and so said. And so by mere association, one becomes authoritative, an expert to be applauded and admired. That's your problem ck, you're using yourself as a reference, not an authority. You're not repeating what some authority has said, therefore you're nuts. The pods will never think you're knowledgeable as long as you think for yourself.

He who knows all the answers has not been asked all the questions - Confucius

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3096 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 483 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 370 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 366 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 388 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 363 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 405 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 364 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 323 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 305 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 338 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 273 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 263 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 284 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 288 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 339 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 309 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 291 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 262 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 299 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 307 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 290 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 274 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 332 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 247 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 190 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 270 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 237 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 303 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 230 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 270 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 290 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 214 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 349 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
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Re: Progeria 219 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
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Re: Progeria 309 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 244 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 213 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 247 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
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ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 201 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
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Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 192 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 173 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 268 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 190 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 236 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 221 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
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Re: If I may offer a numerical example 183 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 193 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 194 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 281 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 320 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
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Re: ADD; add 227 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
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Re: ADD 187 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
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Re: ADD 232 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 192 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 186 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 230 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
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