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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Playing on the ambiguity of “interpretation”,
> just like Creighton. It’s not
> “interpretation”, it’s translation,
> something beyond your competence to assess.

It's beyond my competence as well but I know a circular argument when I see it.

They're all the same; they start with an assumption and without ever citing any supporting facts at all they reason to the assumption.

Without supporting facts reason means nothing. Everybody can see his own beliefs.

"Et als" carry no weight at all. "Et als" are just another opinion. This is why when alts ask for facts they get opinion and reading lists rather than facts.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3378 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 571 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 462 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 466 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 482 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 456 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 496 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 467 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 408 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 394 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 471 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 368 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 354 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 372 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 384 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 467 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 391 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 427 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 358 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 395 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 402 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 400 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 370 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 420 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 348 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 280 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 381 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 333 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 390 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 325 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 357 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 383 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 300 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 437 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 455 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 312 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 345 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 320 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 303 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 321 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 330 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 322 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 404 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 328 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 308 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 337 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 397 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 354 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 352 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 324 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 332 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 368 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 362 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 395 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 396 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 417 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 347 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 370 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 365 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 329 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 336 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 349 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 324 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 394 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 317 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 324 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 356 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 283 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 331 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 364 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 345 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 422 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 354 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 369 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 368 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 344 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 373 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 343 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 337 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 329 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 386 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 325 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 386 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 408 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 463 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 372 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 352 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 372 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 384 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 304 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 329 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 388 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 299 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 414 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 369 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 375 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 316 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 291 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 293 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 317 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 388 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 439 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 11:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 291 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 343 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 357 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 359 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 310 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 397 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 324 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 404 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 357 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 383 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 329 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 330 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 13:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 313 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 316 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 23:31
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 00:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 287 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 273 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 303 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 261 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 311 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 313 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 361 Audrey 19-Jan-18 17:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 310 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 395 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 353 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 296 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 373 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 446 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 277 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 279 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 332 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 277 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 275 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 253 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 267 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 284 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 293 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 00:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 348 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 239 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 293 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 316 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 288 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 309 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 271 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 299 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 317 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 277 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 299 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 295 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 239 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 319 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 298 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 315 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 252 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 283 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 319 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 255 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 253 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 251 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 392 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 273 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 211 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 266 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 298 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 265 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 321 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 267 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 20:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 313 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 276 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 263 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 314 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 250 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 287 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 306 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 23:31
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 327 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 291 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 294 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 294 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 333 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 324 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 273 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 321 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 338 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 279 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 284 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 375 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 284 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 339 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 309 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 358 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 325 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 345 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 346 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 297 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 309 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 346 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 283 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 323 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 276 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 285 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 280 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 275 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 232 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 354 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 350 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 414 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
Re: ADD 382 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 14:50
Re: ADD; add 304 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 418 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
Re: ADD 335 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:58
Re: ADD 332 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:33
Re: ADD 323 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 18:52
Re: ADD 271 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 308 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
Re: ADD 282 cladking 25-Jan-18 20:38
Re: ADD 300 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
Re: ADD 298 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 23:09
Re: ADD 307 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 278 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 260 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 305 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 375 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
Re: ADD 355 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:42
Re: ADD 272 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 355 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 309 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 369 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 282 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 359 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 307 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 395 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 315 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 261 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14