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If people realized how different these translations of the Pyramid Texts are I think they'd lose all respect for Egyptological opinion on their meaning. Each new translation is simply revolutionary. Long passages become short and short ones long. The words (in English) often don't bear any relationship between them and the meaning that a modern reader is likely to take is wholly dissimilar. Modern ones have lines suggesting "gods scoop water from flames" and all sorts of nonsense that almost certainly could have no meaning to anyone at all, ancient or modern.

Worse than the various translations though is that no two Egyptologists agree on the definitions of the words!!! They can't tell you the simplest things like how the "ankh" became a word to mean "life". They don't understand why there would be 27 sceptres listed and they don't know the origin or function of a SINGLE ONE!

Anyone who claims anything in the PT is understood has an axe to grind and a bridge to sell.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3427 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 583 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 472 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 500 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 512 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 468 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 532 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 477 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 422 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 406 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 485 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 380 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 365 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 382 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 393 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 508 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 401 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 447 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 370 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 405 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 411 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 411 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 381 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 431 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 359 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 291 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 392 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 341 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 400 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 335 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 369 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 394 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 309 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 448 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 467 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 320 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 356 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 333 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 316 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 330 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 339 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 334 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 417 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 340 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 318 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 346 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 409 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 368 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 363 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 343 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 381 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 376 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 375 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 405 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 434 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 426 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 358 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 416 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 376 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 343 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 349 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 340 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 359 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 434 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 311 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 345 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 292 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 341 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 374 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 356 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 435 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 362 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 377 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 379 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 354 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 383 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 356 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 347 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 339 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 395 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 334 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 396 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 427 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 499 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 381 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 381 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 393 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 337 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 397 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 307 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 423 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 379 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 332 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 354 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 334 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 299 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 301 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 323 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 395 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 446 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 11:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 296 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 349 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 365 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 316 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 412 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 332 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 413 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 364 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 392 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 351 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 13:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 320 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 335 Origyptian 18-Jan-18 23:31
Re: Et Al Mountain. 323 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 00:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 344 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 281 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 266 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 317 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:56
Re: Et Al Mountain. 320 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 15:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 380 Audrey 19-Jan-18 17:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 21:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 340 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 423 Origyptian 19-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 360 Martin Stower 20-Jan-18 00:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 306 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 381 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 481 Origyptian 21-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 302 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
Re: Et Al Mountain. 306 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 285 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 306 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 359 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 284 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 281 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 259 Origyptian 22-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 277 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 290 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 00:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 357 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 248 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 324 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 316 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 279 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 336 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 307 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 286 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 308 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 304 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 247 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 304 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 320 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 259 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 291 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 301 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 341 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 262 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 260 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 261 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 421 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 280 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 307 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 222 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 272 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 303 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 272 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 327 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 272 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 20:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 320 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 284 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 271 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 322 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 258 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 293 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 314 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 23:31
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 334 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 299 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 301 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 301 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 340 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 331 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 281 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 327 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 344 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 287 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 291 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 290 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 348 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 317 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 366 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 333 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 355 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 354 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 307 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 324 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 371 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 289 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 330 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 283 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 290 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 286 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 281 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 239 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 360 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 358 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 344 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 373 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 419 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
Re: ADD 389 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 14:50
Re: ADD; add 314 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 445 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
Re: ADD 343 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:58
Re: ADD 338 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:33
Re: ADD 331 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 18:52
Re: ADD 277 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 315 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
Re: ADD 291 cladking 25-Jan-18 20:38
Re: ADD 307 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
Re: ADD 305 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 23:09
Re: ADD 315 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 286 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 266 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 313 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 382 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
Re: ADD 361 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 17:42
Re: ADD 279 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 361 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 317 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 376 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 305 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 362 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 406 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 402 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 291 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14