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Ah David, I see that you have created an either/or between a creator and evolution. I suggest to you that it is not an either/or. Try reading genesis without your theological presuppositions. God created Nature, piece by piece, one day at a time until 6 days were over. Obviously, that’s a lot simpler than the scientific evolutionary science of today but it is still an evolutionary process in genesis. Evolution comes from the unrolling of time. It is simply history. There is really no either/or as you suggest. IMO, of course.

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We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 3446 theoferrum 13-Jan-18 21:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 589 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:28
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 478 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:32
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 530 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 12:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 526 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 12:55
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 475 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 13:29
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 592 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 14:13
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 484 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 14:58
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 429 Anonymous User 14-Jan-18 15:27
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 412 Aine 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 491 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:39
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 386 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 371 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 388 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 19:59
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 400 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 17:21
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 526 cladking 14-Jan-18 15:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 409 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 453 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 16:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 378 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 19:31
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 413 Origyptian 14-Jan-18 20:23
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 418 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 20:46
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 417 cladking 14-Jan-18 20:48
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 388 Nejc01 14-Jan-18 21:08
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 438 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 21:36
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 366 Eddie Larry 14-Jan-18 22:16
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 298 theoferrum 14-Jan-18 22:38
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 401 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 19:00
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 349 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 21:24
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 407 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:57
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 344 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 375 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:12
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 401 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 22:30
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 315 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 22:41
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 455 theoferrum 15-Jan-18 23:19
Progeria 473 Eddie Larry 15-Jan-18 23:48
Re: Progeria 326 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:09
Re: Progeria 364 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 00:30
Re: Progeria 340 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:42
Re: Progeria 323 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:43
Re: Progeria 337 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Progeria 347 Eddie Larry 16-Jan-18 02:01
Re: Progeria 340 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 02:12
Re: Progeria 423 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:53
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 347 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:15
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 327 theoferrum 16-Jan-18 00:26
Re: We need to start insisting NOW that the exploration of the New Chamber in the Pyramid be Live Streamed! 352 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 15:39
Et Al Mountain. 416 cladking 14-Jan-18 22:40
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 371 Martin Stower 14-Jan-18 22:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 cladking 14-Jan-18 23:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 350 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:13
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 383 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:45
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 414 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 00:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 475 cladking 15-Jan-18 14:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 432 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 365 cladking 15-Jan-18 19:19
Re: Et Al Mountain. 464 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 389 cladking 15-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 Origyptian 15-Jan-18 21:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 349 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 22:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 356 cladking 15-Jan-18 22:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 347 Martin Stower 15-Jan-18 23:06
Re: Et Al Mountain. 366 cladking 15-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 341 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Et Al Mountain. 454 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 334 cladking 16-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 318 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 340 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:41
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 351 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 301 Audrey 17-Jan-18 03:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 348 cladking 17-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 381 Audrey 17-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Et Al Mountain. 364 cladking 17-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Et Al Mountain. 440 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 01:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 369 cladking 16-Jan-18 01:44
Re: Et Al Mountain. 384 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Et Al Mountain. 390 cladking 16-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 361 Scott Creighton 16-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 391 cladking 16-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Et Al Mountain. 362 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 353 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 16:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 346 cladking 16-Jan-18 16:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 403 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 340 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 17:42
Re: Et Al Mountain. 403 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 17:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 476 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 560 eyeofhorus33 16-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 388 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 20:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 372 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 389 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:07
Re: Et Al Mountain. 341 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 402 Martin Stower 16-Jan-18 23:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 321 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 345 Origyptian 16-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 404 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 cladking 16-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 432 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:14
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 388 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 20:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 348 cladking 16-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Et Al Mountain. 340 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 360 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 331 Corpuscles 16-Jan-18 22:26
Re: Et Al Mountain. 339 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 305 Jon Ellison 16-Jan-18 22:59
Re: Et Al Mountain. 307 Audrey 17-Jan-18 01:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 349 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 02:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 329 Corpuscles 17-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Et Al Mountain. 404 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 10:02
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 302 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 12:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 355 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 12:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 371 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 374 Jon Ellison 17-Jan-18 14:00
Re: Et Al Mountain. 322 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 15:25
Re: Et Al Mountain. 418 Audrey 17-Jan-18 17:12
Re: Et Al Mountain. 336 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 420 Merrell 20-Jan-18 09:05
Re: Et Al Mountain. 369 Audrey 17-Jan-18 18:17
Re: Et Al Mountain. 399 Origyptian 17-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 19:47
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 Martin Stower 17-Jan-18 23:56
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 325 Martin Stower 18-Jan-18 22:44
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 350 Audrey 19-Jan-18 05:59
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 346 Martin Stower 19-Jan-18 17:10
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 387 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 15:51
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 309 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 17:30
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 292 Martin Stower 21-Jan-18 23:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 346 Corpuscles 22-Jan-18 01:10
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 286 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:23
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 283 Martin Stower 22-Jan-18 22:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 296 Merrell 22-Jan-18 23:04
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 362 Merrell 23-Jan-18 09:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 254 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 14:51
Re: Et Al Mountain. 306 Merrell 23-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Et Al Mountain. 328 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 334 Audrey 23-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 300 Martin Stower 23-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Et Al Mountain. 323 Audrey 24-Jan-18 01:16
Re: Et Al Mountain. 285 Origyptian 23-Jan-18 22:45
Re: Et Al Mountain. 342 Audrey 24-Jan-18 02:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 03:13
Re: Et Al Mountain. 332 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Et Al Mountain. 294 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 04:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 313 Audrey 24-Jan-18 04:40
Re: Et Al Mountain. 310 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:43
Re: Et Al Mountain. 253 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 04:47
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 04:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 333 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 05:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 311 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 06:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 12:20
Re: Et Al Mountain. 265 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 15:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 297 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 16:52
Re: Et Al Mountain. 308 cladking 24-Jan-18 17:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 330 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Et Al Mountain. 347 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 19:40
not rocket science 269 Warwick 24-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Et Al Mountain. 265 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 21:02
Re: Et Al Mountain. 267 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 21:14
Re: Et Al Mountain. 456 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 21:29
Re: Et Al Mountain. 285 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 22:34
Re: Et Al Mountain. 313 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:48
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 309 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 19:45
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 326 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:43
ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 289 R Avry Wilson 24-Jan-18 20:39
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 275 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 21:12
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 328 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 22:26
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 265 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 22:53
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 300 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:22
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Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 340 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 23:49
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 305 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:03
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 306 cladking 25-Jan-18 00:14
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 311 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:18
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 345 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:28
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 338 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 287 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:44
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 332 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:01
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 351 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:34
Re: ADDENDUM : Nile sailing time 291 cladking 24-Jan-18 21:31
a mindblowing AE innovation 297 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 348 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 17:21
Re: Et Al Mountain. 387 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 297 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Et Al Mountain. 353 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 11:06
If I may offer a numerical example 322 WonderWho 24-Jan-18 12:04
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 373 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 13:00
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 340 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 15:26
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 362 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 360 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 01:12
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 311 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 01:35
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 332 Audrey 24-Jan-18 15:46
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 416 Martin Stower 24-Jan-18 16:05
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 295 Jon Ellison 24-Jan-18 16:17
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 335 WonderWho 25-Jan-18 00:29
Re: If I may offer a numerical example 289 Jon Ellison 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 297 Thanos5150 24-Jan-18 16:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 292 Origyptian 24-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Et Al Mountain. 287 Corpuscles 24-Jan-18 19:18
Re: Et Al Mountain. 244 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 00:39
Re: Et Al Mountain. 367 Audrey 25-Jan-18 03:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 364 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Et Al Mountain. 350 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 05:27
Re: Et Al Mountain. 379 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:17
ADD 424 R Avry Wilson 25-Jan-18 07:41
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Re: ADD; add 319 cladking 25-Jan-18 15:34
Re: ADD 488 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 16:13
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Re: ADD 284 cladking 25-Jan-18 19:02
Re: ADD 321 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 19:22
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Re: ADD 314 Scott Creighton 25-Jan-18 22:30
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Re: ADD 320 cladking 26-Jan-18 01:26
abstraction 292 Warwick 26-Jan-18 06:29
Re: abstraction 272 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:31
Egyptologists use unscientific and unholy methodology. 319 cladking 26-Jan-18 14:45
Re: ADD 388 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 16:46
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Re: Et Al Mountain. 367 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 11:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 323 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 15:24
Re: Et Al Mountain. 382 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 18:09
Re: Et Al Mountain. 352 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:54
Re: Et Al Mountain. 393 Martin Stower 25-Jan-18 22:57
Re: Et Al Mountain. 430 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 23:28
Re: Et Al Mountain. 321 Martin Stower 29-Jan-18 00:23
Re: Et Al Mountain. 407 Origyptian 29-Jan-18 02:33
Re: Et Al Mountain. 331 Origyptian 25-Jan-18 23:35
Re: Et Al Mountain. 314 Thanos5150 25-Jan-18 19:14