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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3773 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 568 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 574 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 592 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 414 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 325 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 354 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 325 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 321 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 325 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 376 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 335 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 333 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 343 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 322 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 336 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 389 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 348 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 352 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 340 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 347 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 345 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 343 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 345 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 333 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 380 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 374 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 342 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 375 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 387 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 313 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 334 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 344 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 279 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 310 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 293 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 302 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 311 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 289 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 282 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 386 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 294 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 283 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 294 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 95 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 102 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 68 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 150 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 391 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 297 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 369 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 305 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 420 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 286 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 324 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 332 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 339 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 279 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 317 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 320 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 286 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 415 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 301 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 317 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 302 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 300 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 290 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 325 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 300 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 303 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 87 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 348 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 67 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 533 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 483 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 417 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 301 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 323 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 391 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 332 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 310 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 334 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 370 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 336 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 285 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 304 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 399 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 315 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 347 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 282 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 286 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 285 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 290 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 306 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 340 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 291 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 297 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 276 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 298 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 281 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 345 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 305 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 275 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 297 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 274 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 279 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 363 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 339 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 320 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 366 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 303 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 300 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 352 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 308 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 375 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 334 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 338 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 352 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 342 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 365 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 291 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 249 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 290 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 290 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 329 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 315 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 321 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 329 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 439 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 357 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 308 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 285 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 286 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 300 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 312 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 320 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 356 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 306 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 339 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 346 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 320 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 301 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 356 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 287 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 276 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 279 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 319 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 357 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 304 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 326 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 369 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 304 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 383 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 370 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 370 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 330 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 290 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 255 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 262 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 249 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 221 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 254 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 248 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 263 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 194 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 218 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 195 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 188 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 196 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 244 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 251 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 224 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 213 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 233 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 262 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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