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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3947 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 630 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 632 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 658 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 471 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 375 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 408 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 370 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 364 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 369 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 424 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 379 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 388 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 392 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 377 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 385 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 445 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 412 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 395 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 388 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 411 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 388 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 389 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 393 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 376 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 431 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 456 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 389 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 436 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 504 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 362 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 384 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 394 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 330 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 353 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 342 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 344 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 356 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 338 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 320 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 443 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 341 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 326 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 339 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 139 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 157 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 110 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 201 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 448 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 338 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 429 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 352 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 468 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 334 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 374 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 376 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 392 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 323 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 362 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 366 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 332 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 471 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 346 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 373 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 353 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 351 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 336 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 371 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 344 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 350 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 142 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 397 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 108 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 577 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 530 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 467 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 346 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 370 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 483 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 379 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 354 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 386 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 419 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 380 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 330 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 350 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 494 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 363 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 395 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 332 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 330 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 337 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 334 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 354 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 393 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 346 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 341 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 329 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 346 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 325 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 394 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 354 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 318 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 345 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 320 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 332 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 410 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 390 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 366 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 417 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 348 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 350 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 400 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 356 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 425 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 371 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 391 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 399 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 387 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 422 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 330 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 290 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 335 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 333 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 378 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 358 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 361 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 372 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 501 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 404 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 355 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 320 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 331 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 348 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 353 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 362 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 410 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 350 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 381 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 385 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 364 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 348 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 403 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 332 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 319 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 323 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 367 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 400 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 382 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 371 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 412 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 367 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 426 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 417 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 425 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 389 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 340 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 302 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 333 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 297 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 264 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 302 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 295 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 304 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 240 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 264 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 240 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 242 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 240 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 290 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 295 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 268 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 251 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 275 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 301 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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