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Hi Hendrik. I appreciate you taking the trouble to address this issue. I wish other people would give it more thought too, before making rash unverifiable claims.

I would agree with things being rather contrived. When ancient monuments are analysed mathematically all manner of contrivances appear out of thin air with little or no justification beyond fitting the chosen equation, and where they come from and what they are supposed to achieve beyond making the sums add up is another mystery. The rather inconvenient fact that in order to obtain the parameters needed to slip into these convenient equations in order to make them work is that the level of sophistication and technology that is needed is demonstrably missing, not just from the time in question but for thousands of years afterwards, something that is conveniently "overlooked"
If you think this is unfair then I again would like to know how the length of a day was measured to be 86400 seconds long( a contrived timeframe), in ancient Egypt. A little bit of time spent( I should say better spent) on the practicalities and problems involved in that soon shows how totally inadequate ancient technology was to take on that task, and how silly it is to base a theory on it or anything like it.
You could apply the same criteria to just about any of the parameters that are supposedly encoded in ancient monuments with the same inconclusive results. The solid verifiable evidence does not support the number theories, especially when scientifically derived parameters are used. There is a huge disconnect between theory and reality here.

This is a real problem for me, because I find these things too, and more besides. This is why I question the certainties that are expressed on here, and why I find it so frustrating when it's found to be empty beyond the equations, just more numbers adding up to nothing very much and daft claims built on sand to justify it. The same theories abounded on these forums 20 years ago and they haven't gone anywhere since.

So, Hendrik, if you applied the sort of analysis that is found on your impressive website to modern day structures with the same diligence, what would you find? I'm sure the pure number theorists would find much the same encoding in a football field as they find at Giza if they try hard enough, which would be the scientific thing to do, as a control on theory-bias.
Has anyone done that?



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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3887 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 617 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 619 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 647 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 458 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 363 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 398 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 360 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 355 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 362 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 412 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 371 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 376 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 382 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 365 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 373 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 431 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 399 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 386 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 374 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 389 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 378 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 379 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 378 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 365 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 418 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 430 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 379 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 426 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 470 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 352 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 373 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 384 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 317 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 348 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 330 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 335 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 345 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 328 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 314 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 426 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 331 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 317 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 333 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 129 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 147 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 99 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 191 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 438 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 329 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 406 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 343 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 458 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 326 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 363 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 369 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 381 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 315 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 354 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 357 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 323 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 456 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 334 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 361 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 339 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 340 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 325 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 362 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 336 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 339 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 134 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 386 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 100 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 566 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 522 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 455 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 337 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 360 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 454 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 370 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 343 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 373 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 410 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 373 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 321 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 342 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 476 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 352 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 388 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 322 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 320 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 324 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 326 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 344 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 383 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 325 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 333 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 317 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 335 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 317 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 383 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 340 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 309 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 336 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 311 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 320 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 399 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 380 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 359 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 404 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 341 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 340 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 391 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 345 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 414 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 365 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 381 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 386 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 379 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 415 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 321 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 280 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 324 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 324 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 366 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 349 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 352 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 360 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 487 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 391 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 344 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 313 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 320 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 335 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 340 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 353 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 402 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 340 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 371 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 376 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 354 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 336 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 390 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 322 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 309 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 314 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 353 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 390 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 366 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 359 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 403 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 345 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 416 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 405 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 416 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 375 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 330 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 295 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 317 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 285 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 255 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 291 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 279 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 292 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 230 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 249 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 230 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 218 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 228 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 277 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 284 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 257 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 244 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 266 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 290 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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