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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3942 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 628 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 632 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 658 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 471 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 374 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 408 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 369 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 363 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 369 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 424 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 378 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 387 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 391 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 376 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 384 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 445 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 411 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 395 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 388 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 410 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 388 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 388 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 393 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 375 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 430 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 455 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 388 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 436 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 503 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 362 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 383 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 394 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 330 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 352 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 341 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 343 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 356 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 338 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 320 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 442 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 340 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 326 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 339 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 139 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 157 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 110 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 200 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 448 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 338 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 428 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 352 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 467 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 334 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 374 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 376 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 391 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 323 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 362 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 366 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 332 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 470 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 346 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 372 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 352 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 350 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 335 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 370 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 343 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 350 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 141 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 397 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 108 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 577 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 530 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 467 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 345 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 369 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 482 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 378 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 353 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 385 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 419 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 380 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 329 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 350 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 494 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 363 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 394 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 331 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 329 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 336 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 334 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 353 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 393 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 345 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 340 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 328 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 346 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 324 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 394 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 354 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 317 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 344 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 320 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 332 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 410 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 389 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 366 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 417 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 348 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 349 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 400 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 356 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 424 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 371 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 391 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 399 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 386 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 422 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 330 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 290 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 333 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 333 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 377 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 358 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 360 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 371 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 500 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 403 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 354 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 320 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 331 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 347 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 352 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 360 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 410 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 349 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 381 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 384 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 363 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 347 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 403 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 331 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 319 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 323 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 366 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 399 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 381 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 370 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 411 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 367 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 426 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 416 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 425 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 388 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 339 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 301 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 332 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 296 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 263 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 301 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 295 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 303 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 240 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 264 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 239 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 242 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 239 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 289 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 294 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 268 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 251 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 274 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 301 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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