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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3886 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 617 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 619 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 646 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 458 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 363 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 398 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 360 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 354 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 362 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 412 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 371 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 376 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 381 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 365 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 372 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 431 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 399 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 386 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 374 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 389 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 378 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 378 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 378 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 365 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 418 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 429 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 379 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 426 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 469 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 352 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 373 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 384 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 317 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 348 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 329 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 335 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 345 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 328 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 314 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 426 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 330 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 317 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 333 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 129 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 147 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 99 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 191 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 438 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 329 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 406 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 343 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 458 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 326 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 363 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 369 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 381 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 315 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 353 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 357 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 323 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 455 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 334 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 360 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 339 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 340 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 325 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 362 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 336 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 339 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 134 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 386 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 100 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 566 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 522 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 455 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 336 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 359 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 454 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 369 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 343 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 373 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 410 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 373 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 321 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 342 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 476 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 352 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 388 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 322 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 319 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 324 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 326 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 344 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 383 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 325 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 332 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 317 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 335 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 317 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 383 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 340 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 308 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 335 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 311 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 320 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 399 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 380 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 359 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 404 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 341 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 340 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 391 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 345 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 414 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 365 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 381 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 386 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 379 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 415 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 321 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 280 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 324 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 324 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 366 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 349 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 352 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 360 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 486 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 391 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 344 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 313 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 320 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 334 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 340 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 353 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 402 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 340 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 371 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 375 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 353 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 336 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 390 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 321 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 309 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 314 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 353 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 390 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 366 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 359 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 402 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 345 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 415 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 405 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 416 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 375 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 329 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 294 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 317 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 284 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 255 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 291 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 279 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 292 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 230 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 249 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 229 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 218 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 228 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 277 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 283 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 257 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 244 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 266 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 290 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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