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The sekhed is obviously a superior unit than Pi within the design of the GP and I learned this from you. It works three dimensionally. So why would they focus on 22/7, they used 256/81 and 22/7 is naturally built into the design of the GP by using the sekhed. Using 256/81 shows that they used the diameter to relate to the circle so they would have known 22/7

Whether or not pi was part of the premeditated design of the Great Pyramid isn't something to be adjudicated by the authority of anyone, but by a line of evidence of falsification, DavidK. Against you and Jim's insistence that it was, Jacob and I are pointing out that no record of its professed use exists and its frequent occurrence, emerging by computational manipulation of Great Pyramid lengths and angles, may simply have been unwitting by virtue of a numerical tether to something else, like the number 22 and its multiples for example, or the seqed, both of which litter the pyramid's design.

When Jacob says there is no record of its use and shows how it was not needed, he does not falsify the idea it was used. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used diminishes.
When I say you only see pi because it is mathematically and geometrically tethered to the "golden" seqed, which itself may have come from astronomy, or is mathematically tethered to multiples of 22 cubits, I do not falsify the idea of its premeditated use. Merely, the plausibility and probability that it was used even further diminishes.

Just like we can falsify the idea the foot was the metric used to design the Great Pyramid (see the proof I posted for Jim), we have to present proof that pi was not on the mind of the architect to actually falsify it.
An argument based on probability does not suffice. Many scientists rely on it, but too often they end up getting burnt using common wisdom based on their judgement of likeliness.

So, this is what ya'll should be focused on: How do you falsify the idea pi was consciously used, or how do you falsify the idea that its cameos aren't merely incidental to something else indeed intended?

An immediate difficulty presents itself, because proving something's absence is impossible. You can prove the presence of something and by doing so falsify that which negates it. This we can do with cubit vis-a-vis the foot or the meter. There is virtually no wiggle room left unless you want to say both cubit and foot were used on the same features which makes no sense. Nevertheless, one cannot say the cubit was not used because it evidently was.

Given this complication in the logic of proof, here is an example: Let's say you see a nearly perfect ancient megalithic circle. By definition of the geometry, you know pi is embedded, but was that known? Let's say in the center, you find an ancient yard stick which shows you the metric used by the circle's ancient designer. Has anything changed? No. In what metric you measure the lengths makes no difference, because pi approximately derives from a ratio or by the method of exhaustion. However, if the circle's circumference and diameter, when measured in the units of the ancient metric, reveal a certain ratio or irrational fractional number and that same ratio or number you also discover in some other record, for example in the dimensions of a rectangle 22 units long and 7 units wide within this circle, then you have compelling proof.*

So this is one thing you could look for inside the Great Pyramid: Find a distinct feature 22 cubits by 7 and see if it associated with something else which is round.


*This is the problem with Great Pyramid Pi from 880/280....it is a multiple of 22/7, not the elemental ratio. Find something which is actually 22 and 7 and find a circle next to it, and you may well have it.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-18 14:51 by Manu.

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The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 3990 DavidK 11-Jan-18 10:02
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 639 molder 11-Jan-18 11:09
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 642 DavidK 11-Jan-18 12:03
Jim Wakefield's Egyptian Pi. 666 DavidK 01-Feb-18 23:58
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 481 DavidK 14-Nov-18 08:34
23040 383 DavidK 22-Nov-18 21:54
Re: 23040 416 molder 22-Nov-18 22:45
Re: 23040 380 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:38
Re: 23040 371 molder 23-Nov-18 02:43
Re: 23040 381 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 13:36
Re: 23040 434 Manu 23-Nov-18 18:46
Re: 23040 390 molder 23-Nov-18 22:44
Re: 23040 395 Manu 23-Nov-18 23:10
Re: 23040 403 DavidK 24-Nov-18 00:11
Re: 23040 387 molder 24-Nov-18 01:30
Re: 23040 397 molder 24-Nov-18 03:14
Re: 23040 454 Manu 24-Nov-18 04:47
Re: 23040 423 DavidK 24-Nov-18 10:02
Re: 23040 402 molder 24-Nov-18 11:04
Re: 23040 395 Manu 24-Nov-18 15:01
Re: 23040 426 Sirfiroth 24-Nov-18 17:16
Re: 23040 399 Manu 24-Nov-18 19:45
Re: 23040 397 DavidK 24-Nov-18 21:08
Re: 23040 401 Manu 24-Nov-18 22:13
Re: 23040 384 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:36
Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 444 hendrik dirker 27-Nov-18 12:10
some thoughts 489 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:56
an anecdote 399 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 10:42
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 448 Sirfiroth 29-Nov-18 22:03
Re: Earth combined in sphere & octahedron 534 hendrik dirker 30-Nov-18 07:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 371 molder 24-Nov-18 23:37
Re: More than one value for pi used 390 Manu 25-Nov-18 18:56
Re: More than one value for pi used 406 DavidK 25-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 336 Manu 26-Nov-18 14:33
Re: More than one value for pi used 362 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:08
Re: More than one value for pi used 350 Manu 27-Nov-18 11:15
Re: More than one value for pi used 354 molder 27-Nov-18 22:41
Re: More than one value for pi used 363 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:12
Re: More than one value for pi used 345 DavidK 27-Nov-18 23:35
Re: More than one value for pi used 331 Manu 27-Nov-18 23:50
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 449 M. J. Thomas 28-Nov-18 11:28
Re: Holes in Grand Gallery ramps 350 molder 01-Dec-18 12:55
Re: More than one value for pi used 335 molder 26-Nov-18 11:47
Re: More than one value for pi used 348 Manu 26-Nov-18 12:11
Re: 23040 146 DavidK 24-Dec-19 00:52
Re: 23040 164 Sirfiroth 26-Dec-19 14:30
Re: 23040 117 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:05
Re: 23040 210 Sirfiroth 27-Dec-19 21:04
Earth depicted in the sky 460 hendrik dirker 24-Nov-18 17:28
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 347 molder 24-Nov-18 23:21
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 452 DavidK 25-Nov-18 08:35
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 363 DavidK 26-Nov-18 11:31
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 478 hendrik dirker 26-Nov-18 17:23
Re: Earth depicted in the sky 21600 flagged 344 DavidK 27-Nov-18 10:42
I dunno 382 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 16:22
Re: 23040 390 Sirfiroth 23-Nov-18 00:41
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 398 DavidK 23-Nov-18 09:53
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 335 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 14:06
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 371 DavidK 26-Nov-18 15:24
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 377 Sirfiroth 26-Nov-18 21:13
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 342 DavidK 27-Nov-18 09:16
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 483 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 01:10
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 355 DavidK 28-Nov-18 11:39
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 387 Manu 28-Nov-18 14:25
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 361 DavidK 28-Nov-18 16:14
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 364 Manu 28-Nov-18 17:20
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 345 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 00:52
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 380 Manu 30-Nov-18 02:12
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 351 Sirfiroth 28-Nov-18 17:04
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 360 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:02
Re: 23040 and writing real Pi 151 thinkitover 24-Dec-19 16:07
Really loving Jim's 23040 and root 5 406 DavidK 23-Nov-18 16:29
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 114 DavidK 27-Dec-19 19:17
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 585 DavidK 19-Mar-18 09:43
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 538 DavidK 08-May-18 10:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 476 DavidK 12-Nov-18 17:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 356 DavidK 28-Nov-18 20:25
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 376 hendrik dirker 29-Nov-18 17:12
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 512 DavidK 30-Nov-18 15:28
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 392 Sirfiroth 30-Nov-18 16:52
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 362 molder 30-Nov-18 22:22
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 392 DavidK 30-Nov-18 22:45
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge 433 hendrik dirker 01-Dec-18 08:13
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 388 DavidK 01-Dec-18 10:49
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 335 molder 01-Dec-18 12:28
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 357 Sirfiroth 01-Dec-18 14:25
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 511 rodz111 01-Dec-18 18:36
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 373 DavidK 01-Dec-18 20:53
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 406 Sirfiroth 02-Dec-18 20:09
Re: eclipse & Stonehenge and Pi 342 DavidK 02-Dec-18 22:55
Really that dense? 341 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 02:29
Re: Really that dense? 344 rodz111 03-Dec-18 03:40
Re: Really that dense? 340 Sirfiroth 03-Dec-18 14:37
Re: Really that dense? 362 rodz111 04-Dec-18 03:43
Re: Really that dense? 407 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 05:06
Re: Really that dense? 360 DavidK 04-Dec-18 10:13
Re: Really that dense? 348 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 15:01
Re: Really that dense? 337 DavidK 04-Dec-18 16:17
Re: Really that dense? 353 molder 04-Dec-18 10:27
Re: Really that dense? 333 DavidK 04-Dec-18 13:06
Re: Really that dense? 404 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 16:42
Re: Really that dense? 379 rodz111 04-Dec-18 21:38
Re: Really that dense? 326 Sirfiroth 04-Dec-18 23:38
Re: Really that dense? 354 DavidK 05-Dec-18 00:06
Re: Really that dense? 327 rodz111 05-Dec-18 16:32
Re: Really that dense? 340 rodz111 09-Dec-18 04:17
Re: Really that dense? 421 DavidK 03-Dec-18 09:19
Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 398 molder 05-Dec-18 21:40
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 378 DavidK 05-Dec-18 23:01
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 426 cloister 05-Dec-18 23:38
uhmm... every day? 356 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 06:42
Re: uhmmm... every day? 365 cloister 06-Dec-18 08:37
Re: uhmmm... every day? 409 hendrik dirker 06-Dec-18 09:06
Re: uhmmm... every day? 368 cloister 06-Dec-18 11:25
Re: Re:Egyptian value for pi in GP 436 DavidK 06-Dec-18 10:04
Quite Simply! 381 Sirfiroth 06-Dec-18 13:55
Re: Quite Simply! 398 DUNE 07-Dec-18 11:24
Great Assumption! 408 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 14:44
Re: Great Assumption! 397 DUNE 07-Dec-18 16:49
Re: Great Assumption! 432 Sirfiroth 07-Dec-18 17:52
Re: Great Assumption! 338 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 02:28
Re: Great Assumption! 301 DUNE 08-Dec-18 09:05
Re: Great Assumption! 342 Thanos5150 08-Dec-18 15:57
Re: Great Assumption! 339 DUNE 08-Dec-18 17:51
Re: Quite Simply! 385 DavidK 07-Dec-18 14:57
Re: Quite Simply! 370 DavidK 07-Dec-18 20:27
Re: Quite Simply! 368 DUNE 07-Dec-18 22:26
Re: Quite Simply! 380 DavidK 07-Dec-18 22:37
a load of numbers under scrtutiny 514 hendrik dirker 12-Dec-18 13:30
Papyrus of Pffft.... 415 cloister 12-Dec-18 16:01
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 366 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 12:16
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 329 cloister 14-Dec-18 14:52
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 341 Dr. Troglodyte 14-Dec-18 15:30
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 360 hendrik dirker 15-Dec-18 06:50
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 360 DavidK 15-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Papyrus of Pffft.... 369 cloister 15-Dec-18 21:27
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 422 rodz111 15-Dec-18 08:54
Re: Papyrus of Pffft or the pre-Columbian cultures 359 molder 18-Dec-18 22:18
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 392 DavidK 12-Dec-18 20:16
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 396 DUNE 12-Dec-18 21:51
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 373 cloister 12-Dec-18 22:59
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 358 gjb 13-Dec-18 01:53
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 413 DavidK 13-Dec-18 10:35
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 338 cloister 13-Dec-18 12:22
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 326 DavidK 13-Dec-18 12:39
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 336 cloister 13-Dec-18 13:04
Re: a load of numbers under scrtutiny 377 gjb 13-Dec-18 12:54
440 & 280 414 hendrik dirker 13-Dec-18 06:51
Re: 440 & 280 391 hendrik dirker 21-Dec-18 11:51
Re:-Stop the World for a word... 377 rodz111 13-Dec-18 19:57
Re: Re:-Stop the World for a word... 419 hendrik dirker 14-Dec-18 06:04
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 389 molder 08-Dec-18 05:10
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 437 DavidK 08-Dec-18 09:15
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 427 DUNE 08-Dec-18 15:31
Re: Re:Babylonian value for pi in GP 433 DavidK 09-Dec-18 09:53
Link to 277.777r at the GP 400 DavidK 25-Feb-19 19:37
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 352 DavidK 04-Mar-19 21:42
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP and 1111.1111r 309 DavidK 22-Mar-19 20:58
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 353 rodz111 23-Mar-19 02:27
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 304 DavidK 23-Mar-19 14:44
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 275 rodz111 24-Mar-19 09:28
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 313 Thanos5150 23-Mar-19 15:03
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 304 rodz111 24-Mar-19 01:56
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 313 Thanos5150 24-Mar-19 03:32
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 248 rodz111 24-Mar-19 06:14
Re: Link to 277.777r at the GP 270 DavidK 24-Mar-19 13:35
closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 245 DavidK 24-Mar-19 16:33
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 255 rodz111 24-Mar-19 20:00
Re: closed or open mind- how to get kicked off a closed mind websire 245 DavidK 25-Mar-19 08:18
Stanton Drew 300 molder 27-Mar-19 22:14
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 304 DavidK 28-Mar-19 07:37
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 277 molder 29-Mar-19 10:33
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 266 DUNE 29-Mar-19 11:16
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 282 DavidK 29-Mar-19 13:31
Re: The Work of Hugh Franklin at the GP and Stonehenge 312 molder 29-Mar-19 20:48


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