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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 562 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 419 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 317 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 357 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 341 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 368 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 414 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 333 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 389 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 350 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 315 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 332 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 368 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 344 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 346 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 300 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 347 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 322 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 332 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 383 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 402 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 303 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 299 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 383 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 283 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 338 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 342 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 256 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 317 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
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Re: SC deflection 296 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 254 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 243 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 254 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 291 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 293 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 293 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 316 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 339 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 381 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 319 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 291 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 255 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 300 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 225 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 342 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 255 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Rubbish! 261 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 287 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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just to be clear... 280 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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