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> > > > > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > > > > Even if every mastaba were originally
> a
> > > > tomb,
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > would that show that the pyramids
> were
> > > > tombs?
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> > > > > > The pyramid evolved from the mastaba;
> > > > Djoser's
> > > > > > original mastaba evolved into a stepped
> > > > mastaba
> > > > > > and then with Sekhemkhet a square
> > grounplan
> > > > was
> > > > > > used thus creating the first step
> > pyramid.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a neat hypothesis, now how are you
> > > going
> > > > to
> > > > > prove it?
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> > > > Not a hypothesis, just a statement of
> facts.
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> > > Djoser's pyramid was converted from a
> mastaba.
> > > The great pyramids were not converted from a
> > > mastaba.
> > > The great pyramids are very unlike Djosers
> > > pyramid.
> > > You're confusing evolution with conversion.
> > > Therefore the notion of pyramid by pyramid
> > > evolution is an unproven hypothesis and not a
> > fact
> > > or proven theory.
> > > How are you going to prove that hypothesis?
> >
> > If by great pyramids you mean those of the 4th
> > dyn, they are just another step in pyramid
> > evolution.
> > The Medum pyramid complex is the link between
> the
> > step pyramid complex and the "true" pyramid
> > complex.
> > The pyramid of Medum was originally a step
> pyramid
> > but the other parts of the complex were
> something
> > new, a blueprint if you like for all that
> followed
> > untill the end of the OK; cult pyramid (first
> one
> > ever, but a stepped one; only one of it's kind
> ),
> > funerary chapel (evolved into temple), causway,
> > valley temple.
> > Don't forget that this step pyramid was
> converted
> > into a "true" pyramid.
>
> Some questions:
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> First: Why do you think the Meidum inner stepped
> 'cores' were smoothed with casing stones and then
> additonal casing stones added to convert to a true
> pyramid?

Sneferu wanted a true pyramid, after the problems with the Bent the conversion at Meidum started etc. As you well know you can find this in most works about pyramids.

> Second: Why do you think the core stepped
> footprint of Meidum was constructed on solid
> bedrock but the added casing to convert t to a
> true pyramid was built on sand (hence why this
> part collapsed)?

Collapse occured centuries later as you probably know.

> It strongly suggests to me that there were two
> quite different builders involved. One who
> understood and knew how to build a secure
> structure i.e. on a solid foundation and one who
> was quite ignorant of such. I'd be interested to
> hear your view.
>
> SC

It suggest Sneferu wanted a true pyramid at all costs, no need for two different builders.