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> It is the Church's position to ALWAYS move slowly
> on matters of alleged supernatural intervention,
> in my opinion because the Church doesn't need to.

It takes no time for the episcopate to acknowledge that the Sun blinked in and out many times during that day. No judgement need be cast about it being a "miracle", only a statement of what was observed, and yet none have made such a statement. In fact, they haven't described any details at all of what they saw.


> ...If you look further you will find some report that
> they were somehow able to look to the Sun. Not
> that that would matter in your case. You would
> just say that it is all part of the hoax. Anybody
> can come up with a conspiracy theory. Sounds like
> you really believe that here, which as I said is
> your prerogative. However, you also
> systematically exclude a lot of corroborating
> evidence online, of others reporting this event.

First of all, where has anyone claimed to have looked straight into the Sun with the naked eye and actually see a sharp solar disk, regardless of how badly their retina was scarred by doing so? And why would anyone of sound mind look directly at the Sun for any length of time in the first place?

Secondly, who said anything about a conspiracy? The only contention I'm making is about the half a handful of YouTube videos showing a blinking Sun claiming this is what all those people saw even though I've found no one else describing such a blinking Sun. It sounds like you are the one trying to turn it into a conspiracy theory when none actually exists.



> This, however, is a very separate issue in my
> mind. Let us all be VERY CLEAR, Origyptian. You
> did NOT mimic the video and you have NOT come
> close to meeting my direct challenge.

I have indeed. You simply seem to be deliberately avoiding trying the same thing yourself to verify it's true.


> 1. Reach for your cellphone
> 2. Go outside
> 3. Point to the Sun
> 4. Make the Sun appear to blink while the clouds
> or background field remains constant
> 5. Load the Video to youtube and introduce
> yourself.
> 6. Post the video here.

You must have missed the part where I said it might have been a camera with a separate light sensor, or (more likely) the few videos out there were post-processed to alternate the "exposure" setting, just as I did which verified the effect royally.


> Origyptian, you should know that I have very
> little interest in debating with people who make
> direct assertions about effects that they should
> be easily be able to reproduce AS THEY
> CLAIM, especially when I have called upon them to
> 'walk their talk' and they not only don't, but
> then persist with secondary arguments based on
> soft-area assumptions like group behavior.

Yes, it was very easy to mimic the effect within a few seconds. You seem to be in total denial about this and I'm wondering why, unless you're simply one of the faithful who wants it to be true. You haven't addressed my point about the subdued crowd when the Sun blinking started, or the lack of any detailed description of what was meant by "dancing Sun", e.g., rather than "winking Sun" or some other descriptor that more accurately portrays what you believe happened. The fact is, the "Dancing" descriptor far more accurately refers to the morphing shape of the Sun's glare as the clouds pass by and not to any blinking of the Sun.


> Here's one from 2010, apparently. Another for you
> to produce evidence to compare to. To point
> 4 above, please also include a crowd that is all
> facing the sun, with an object and audio, as we
> see here in this video entitled "Medjugorje -
> Miracle of the Sun - May 2010": (1)
>
> [www.youtube.com]

It is totally unfathomable to me that you are suggesting that all those people are there witnessing such a blinking Sun with zero reaction from the crowd whatsoever. You're suggesting that a field full of people suddenly experienced en masse what is arguably the most amazing miracle in modern times, and they just stand there silently replying to the clergy's prayers?

Is that really what you think is going on?

Zero reaction from astrophysicists around the world. No statement by any state official, no detailed description from any of the faithful who directly observed this event. Nothing other than the "personal video" posted by "TheGospaMessages" user on YouTube.

Do you not agree that the artifact in this video and also this one (both by TheGospaMessages) is from an oversaturated photo chip?


> Some of your points are warranted, I would agree.
> Leaving aside the facts that many are, one might
> think that everybody would be looking at the Sun.
> However, this was not my own direct experience ...

What follows is an entirely different phenomenon which contains no evidence at all other than personal descriptions of perceptions and interpretation. I was only commenting on the blinking Sun effect in those posted videos.

Do you want to continue the discussion about your Sai Baba experience?


> In 1995...
> ... [a lengthy description of a different experience not relevant to blinking Sun has been omitted in this reply]
>...


> My answer to your concern is that this sort of
> reaction may be rather normal in certain settings,
> as it appeared to have been in the case of Sai
> Baba as many, many, many people associated with
> him have reported various kinds of 'supernatural'
> experiences. That would account for the
> variability of response in the Sun miracles, which
> was exactly what I noted when I looked about the
> crowd to see how other people were reacting:
> variable responses. My guess would be that the
> solar anomalies had been occurring for sometime
> prior to the footage presented. People had had
> time to adapt.

Well, still no details are given to what was seen other than "shooting stars" in your Sai Baba event.

And a "guess" is not evidence that can serve to authenticate such a report.

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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:09
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 290 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
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Medjugorje - May 2010 246 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:25
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Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 285 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 259 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:58
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 208 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 04:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 233 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 18:49
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 235 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 257 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 258 Eddie Larry 07-Jan-18 20:59
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 252 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:18
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 313 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 21:42
See ya, Phil 304 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 22:31
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 282 Eddie Larry 08-Jan-18 06:20
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 249 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 270 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 237 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 247 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 251 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 267 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 03:46
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 324 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 270 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:57
Proselytizing: Not 303 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Proselytizing: Not 318 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Proselytizing: Not 329 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 05:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 296 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 14:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 333 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 251 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 257 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 223 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 337 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:02
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 295 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 251 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 267 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 278 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 299 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 286 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 304 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 306 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 303 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 328 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 331 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 348 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 306 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 287 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 300 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 335 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 363 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 352 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 304 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 329 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 332 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 359 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 342 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 318 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 225 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 318 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 322 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 261 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 299 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 303 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 321 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 352 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 323 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 254 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 284 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 315 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 282 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 264 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 296 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 311 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 323 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 316 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 316 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 306 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 288 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 269 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 276 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 300 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 268 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 292 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 254 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 300 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 298 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 311 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 333 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 359 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 293 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 265 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 298 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 256 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 276 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 221 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 304 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 256 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 267 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 233 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 204 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 289 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 310 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 336 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 320 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 276 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 283 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 302 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 338 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 259 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 296 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 289 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 321 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 309 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 398 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 277 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 321 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 299 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 261 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 266 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 274 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 275 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 282 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 261 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 256 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 278 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 258 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 247 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 255 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 253 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 326 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 247 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 260 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 248 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 277 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 284 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 343 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 269 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 283 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 322 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 266 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 289 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 381 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 196 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 327 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 237 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 267 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 242 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 285 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 263 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 304 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 345 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 322 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 323 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 307 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 309 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 265 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 249 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 315 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 276 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 274 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 296 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 329 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 244 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 269 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 263 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 356 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 281 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 327 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 329 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 325 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 330 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 280 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 395 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 264 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 358 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 285 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 302 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 238 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 375 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 296 PB Bytes 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 405 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 249 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 292 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 287 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 337 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 251 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 335 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 325 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 347 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 243 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 322 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 263 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 361 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 284 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 348 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 223 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 252 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 300 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 270 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 308 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 349 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 265 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 302 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 295 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 286 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 266 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 392 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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