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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Aine Wrote:
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> > What violation? See Gibbs free energy, not
> > negative entropy.
>
> It's hard to get too serious about such things,
> but it's fun to muse about them, and it brings me
> back to my hippy days...
>
> Where does that enthalpy come from? The Sun? Where
> did the Sun get its energy? Someone or something
> had to load the gun in the first place. Gibbs
> energy only exists because the energy initially
> was inserted into the system, right? So where does
> the energy come from and how was it able to defeat
> the entropic tendency?

That's a question for Jonny, but the amount of energy in the universe is constant. The sun generates heat via nuclear reactions, which radiates to Earth. Plants and bacteria utilize the photons for photosynthesis, and so on up the food chain.

>
>
> > The second law describes closed systems. Living
> > organisms are open systems. The Earth itself is
> an
> > open system. Also, evolutionary processes take
> > place over very long periods of time. Show me
> the
> > equation that demonstrates that living
> organisms
> > are in violation of any of the laws of
> > thermodynamics.
>
> "Closed" and "open" systems are relative to the
> context at hand. And in a sense there is no truly
> closed system as long as it exists with other
> 'systems' in the same universe. I know of no known
> principle that allows any such "closed" systems to
> be guaranteed separation from any other system
> vis a vis the laws of physics. The notion
> of a truly "closed system" strikes me more as a
> thought experiment than anything real we can point
> to.
>
> It's not even clear to me that the universe as we
> know it, as a singular closed system truly follows
> the law of entropy. While it's possible for one to
> argue that the Big Bang is time zero on the
> entropy clock, one could also argue that the Big
> Bang is the second half of a Big Oscillation which
> includes a Big Implosion phase too, and once the
> universe compacts back to infinitesimally small as
> a result of the Big Implosion phase, it may then
> expand again with another Big Bang, etc., etc., so
> we do not know whether the 2nd law actually does
> apply to anything other than the current state of
> the universe.

Correct. But all we're concerned with is the current state of the universe.

But you still haven't demonstrated how any of this violates the laws. You're questioning the laws themselves.

> Likewise for the timescale of the energy exchange.
> Living systems represent an eddy current of a net
> acquisition of energy and organization in an
> apparent violation of the 2nd Law.

How?

You can create
> a "closed" system by including the entire solar
> system. Sure, eventually each living organism will
> succumb to the 2nd law, but they violate that law
> during their acquisition phase, and they do so
> quite consistently in an effort to preserve the
> species.

Again, how?

>
> I'd like to see the equation that plausibly
> explains how
> t
> his
can slowly develop through random
> coincidence in the midst of the laws of
> thermodynamics and statistical probability.
>
>
> > Also, if the 2nd law was violated, we'd never
> get
> > old and we'd never die.
>
> I certainly don't claim that the violation of the
> 2nd law is permanent for a given organism. But the
> law does continue to be violated as the
> population continues to expand. How
> is it possible for Nature to expend that energy,
> and why is it advantageous for Nature to do so?

That's easy. There's no better way to expend that energy than by reproducing.


> > Organisms live at
> > near-maximum thermodynamic efficiency (some
> more
> > so than others), but in the end, there is no
> > violation of the laws of thermodynamics.
>
> Again, "in the end" is a catch-all way to
> reconcile the law, but it doesn't account for the
> short-term and consistent reversal in entropy
> during the lifetime of a species, genus, or
> phylum, etc. Simply put, DNA is designed from the
> bottom up to counter entropy long after its
> procreative processes have been spent.

Why do you think DNA is some kind of designer drug? It's a nucleic acid, not some mystery substance.

And some
> species have been doing that for many millions of
> years. How is that the result of random mass and
> energy interactions? The video in the above link
> mainly depicts the high order coiling of DNA after
> it's been replicated. Very little is available
> regarding the physical process of replication, and
> I suspect that's because the unzipping a 6 mile
> length of rope that's been completely reduced to a
> 6-degree coil is basically impossible to
> comprehend, let alone explain.

Actually, just in the last week or two there was something about capturing DNA in the act of replicating. I'll see if I can find it.

> > And there is now evidence that life itself is
> an
> > unavoidable product of the laws of
> thermodynamics.
> > It's good stuff and they are in the process of
> > testing it.


> Not so much "unavoidable" as much as "easily
> accommodated". The study is based on computer
> modeling which means many assumptions are made
> regarding the principles at play. It's reminiscent
> of Sydney Fox' primordial ooze which generated
> organic molecules when charged with an electric
> current.
>
> On the other hand, if you're suggesting that life
> (and the negative entropy it produces) is simply a
> short-term phase in the dissipation of energy from
> the Sun, I certainly would allow that possibility.
> But it's far less clear that the dissipation of
> solar energy can accidentally produce DNA's
> resilience, redundancy, self-repair,
> self-reproduction, and widespread occurrence on
> the surface of the planet, let alone the 6-degree
> helical windings and unzipping that's presented in
> the above youtube link.

Who said the dun caused it? That's really stretching things a bit, don't you think?

Has it occured to you that perhaps DNA itself evolved, and the relationship between RNA, DNA and proteins co-evolved? I doubt very much that DNA was the first agent of heredity.


> > Against the odds complexity? I knew we'd get
> into
> > that eventually. However, what are the odds of
> a
> > supernatural creator (and make no mistake,
> that's
> > what ID is about) actually existing?
>
> Why categorize it as "supernatural"? What do we
> think we know that allows us to make such a claim?
> I prefer "super-unknowable" which seems far more
> likely, considering the limits of those 3 pounds
> of water, fat, and protein that we depend on
> between our ears to contemplate such vast things.
>

Whatever you want to call it, then. What makes it more likely than the alternative?


> > Now, against the odds doesn't mean impossible
> > (because the probability never reaches zero).
> Show
> > me the math that states that a supernatural
> agent
> > is more possible than not.
>
> You're currect that it's a statistical argument,
> and the odds are infinitesimally tiny. I base that
> assessment on the 2nd Law, our inability to
> adequately define life, our inability to find life
> (so far) anywhere else than the few mile thick
> surface of our own planet, and the fact that life
> exists at all.

Why?

Here's another possibility: life is an immutable property of the universe. And another: the universe itself is evolving, and life is simply the next step.


> > > As was previously mentioned, if a non-random
> > > 'intelligence' is responsible for setting up
> the
> > > design, what created that 'intelligence'?
> >
> > Passing the buck fallacy. It fails to apply the
> > same rules to the problem when it comes to God.
> > And then you're back to infinite regression.
> >
> > In short, it solves nothing.
>
> Not sure what you mean by that. It's not passing
> the buck, it's allowing the logical reiterative
> paradigm to those who believe the universe is
> indeed infinite. Almost by definition, it's
> passing the buck to claim that the universe is
> infinite in space and time.

I didn't claim that space and time are infinite.

It's passing the buck to claim (as IDers and creationists do) that life on Earth MUST have been created, but God is subject to special rules exempting him from that question, and wasn't designed or created. It's more special pleading, but passing the buck does apply.


>
> What rules apply to God? And if God
> is "intelligent", where did that intelligence come
> from? Is God getting smarter? Is God subject to
> the laws of thermodynamics? Does God follow the
> laws of statistics?

Wouldn't we all love to know that. LOL In If he designed and created it, why wouldn't he be subject to it himself?

The problem with ID is that it doesn't set out any rules or parameters for their as yet nameless intelligent designer. Even magic has clearly delineated limitations.


> If the laws of physics don't apply to God,
> how do we account for God!

And therein lies the rub!

You can’t use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn’t use reason to get into.~Neil deGrasse Tyson



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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 396 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:47
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 398 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 20:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 376 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 21:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 308 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 355 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 23:35
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 434 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 298 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 322 cladking 30-Dec-17 19:11
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 368 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:04
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:46
Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 423 Reagent 30-Dec-17 02:49
Re: Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 308 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 429 Thunderbird 30-Dec-17 04:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 369 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 363 Thunderbird 31-Dec-17 18:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 339 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 256 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 444 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 337 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:48
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Re: Not necessarily Christian 351 Vanya 31-Dec-17 09:06
Re: Not necessarily Christian 296 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 03:48
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 330 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 16:59
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 301 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:37
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:53
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 283 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:07
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 305 Aine 31-Dec-17 17:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 341 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 324 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:31
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 329 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 247 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 280 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:13
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 331 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 15:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 295 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 334 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 298 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 01:59
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 343 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:11
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 287 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 316 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:32
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 306 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:25
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 323 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:54
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 352 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 05:15
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 407 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:09
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 338 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 326 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 15:05
entropy 308 brett z 03-Jan-18 15:45
Re: entropy 321 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 16:22
Re: entropy 310 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:56
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 240 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:26
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 21:26
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 243 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:27
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 272 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:55
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 304 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:56
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 318 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 07:40
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 309 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 18:57
Re: Masonic History 295 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:03
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Re: Masonic History 287 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:35
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 282 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 228 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:00
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 396 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:42
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 273 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:20
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 286 Audrey 11-Jan-18 02:26
Re: UBW/nt 270 Thunderbird 11-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 312 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 266 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 255 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 258 Thunderbird 02-Jan-18 21:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 269 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 331 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 311 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 292 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 332 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 03:14
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 271 Audrey 02-Jan-18 06:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 398 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 13:05
Re: Directed Panspermia 313 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:11
Re: Directed Panspermia 269 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:27
Re: Directed Panspermia 270 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 19:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 382 cladking 31-Dec-17 15:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 17:37
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 216 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 251 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 05:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 259 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:10
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 282 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 358 Aine 01-Jan-18 03:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 264 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 09:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 290 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:28
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 265 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 17:41
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 17:57
It's impossible 240 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:58
Re: It's impossible 255 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:22
Re: It's impossible 292 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:40
Re: It's impossible 248 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:32
Re: It's impossible 270 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:42
Re: It's impossible 297 Eddie Larry 01-Jan-18 23:02
Re: It's impossible 283 brett z 01-Jan-18 23:57
Re: It's impossible 273 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 00:15
anthropic principle 395 brett z 02-Jan-18 00:21
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What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 395 Vanya 02-Jan-18 16:19
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 258 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 299 Vanya 02-Jan-18 17:14
Re: It's impossible 269 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:46
Re: It's impossible 281 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 15:40
Re: It's impossible 313 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:47
Re: It's impossible 263 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: It's impossible 278 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:50
Re: It's impossible 251 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:04
Re: It's impossible 273 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:07
Re: It's impossible 254 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:20
Re: It's impossible 230 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:23
Re: It's impossible 221 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:05
Re: It's impossible 254 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:30
Re: It's impossible 269 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:25
Re: It's impossible 337 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 10:12
Re: It's impossible 269 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:36
Re: It's impossible 318 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:28
Re: It's impossible 233 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 04:57
Re: It's impossible 231 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:39
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 301 Audrey 01-Jan-18 21:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 306 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 238 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 296 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:26
Re: Bioplasma 258 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 350 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:40
Laugh or cry? 320 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 13:00
Re: Laugh or cry? 344 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 14:21
About time for you to learn about atheism 277 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:20
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 267 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:03
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 325 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:21
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 309 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 305 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 320 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 08:23
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 266 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 09:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 350 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-17 15:39
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 369 eli stills 31-Dec-17 16:56
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 349 cladking 31-Dec-17 17:59
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 335 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 18:23
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 316 cladking 31-Dec-17 19:49
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 347 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-17 20:56
But I lack the pictures! n/t 337 cladking 31-Dec-17 21:25
My interpretation 300 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:35
Re: My interpretation 339 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:46
not to me 361 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 288 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 350 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 05:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 276 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 239 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 264 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 23:12
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 265 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 271 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:34
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 233 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 284 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 02:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 404 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 05:50
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 285 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 276 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 282 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 328 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 379 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 eli stills 03-Jan-18 02:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 304 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 23:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 258 eli stills 04-Jan-18 02:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 Origyptian 04-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 272 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 06:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 321 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 319 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 274 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 23:25
Kerala 2016 299 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Kerala 2016 259 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:38
Re: Kerala 2016 282 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:16
and Back to Nigeria 2017 250 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 05:43
Re: and Back to Nigeria 2017 316 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:16
Medjugorje - May 2010 246 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 287 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 285 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 259 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:58
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 208 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 04:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 233 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 18:49
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 235 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 258 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 258 Eddie Larry 07-Jan-18 20:59
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 253 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:18
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 314 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 21:42
See ya, Phil 304 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 22:31
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 282 Eddie Larry 08-Jan-18 06:20
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 251 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 270 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 237 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 247 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 251 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 267 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 03:46
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 324 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 270 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:57
Proselytizing: Not 304 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Proselytizing: Not 318 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Proselytizing: Not 330 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 05:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 297 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 14:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 333 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 253 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 257 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 223 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 338 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:02
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 295 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 252 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 267 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 279 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 299 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 286 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 305 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 306 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 303 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 329 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 332 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 348 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 287 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 300 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 335 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 363 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 352 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 306 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 330 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 332 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 359 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 342 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 319 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 225 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 319 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 323 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 261 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 299 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 303 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 322 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 352 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 323 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 254 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 285 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 315 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 282 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 264 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 296 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 312 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 323 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 316 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 318 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 306 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 288 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 270 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 276 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 300 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 268 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 292 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 254 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 300 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 299 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 311 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 333 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 359 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 293 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 298 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 256 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 276 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 221 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 304 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 257 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 267 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 235 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 204 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 290 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 310 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 336 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 320 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 276 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 283 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 302 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 338 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 260 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 297 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 289 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 321 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 309 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 398 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 277 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 321 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 299 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 261 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 266 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 274 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 275 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 282 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 262 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 256 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 278 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 259 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 248 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 255 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 253 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 326 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 247 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 260 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 248 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 277 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 284 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 344 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 269 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 283 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 322 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 267 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 289 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 381 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 198 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 327 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 237 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 267 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 242 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 285 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 263 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 304 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 345 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 323 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 323 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 307 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 309 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 265 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 250 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 315 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 276 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 274 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 297 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 329 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 244 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 269 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 263 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 356 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 281 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 327 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 329 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 325 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 330 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 280 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 395 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 264 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 358 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 286 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 303 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 238 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 375 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 296 PB Bytes 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 407 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 249 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 292 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 288 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 337 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 251 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 335 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 348 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 243 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 322 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 265 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 361 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 284 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 348 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 303 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 224 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 252 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 300 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 271 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 308 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 349 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 266 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 303 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 295 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 287 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 266 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 393 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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