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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2898 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 484 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 558 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 439 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 473 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 414 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 444 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 489 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 379 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 484 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 375 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 390 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 316 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 477 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 278 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 375 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 537 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 457 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 465 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 355 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 446 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 399 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 369 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 400 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 444 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 395 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 369 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 319 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 315 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 282 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 336 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 320 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 325 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 420 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 349 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 373 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 340 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 365 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 303 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 305 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 424 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 262 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 333 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 325 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 280 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 296 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 295 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 355 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 328 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 288 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 365 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 272 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 288 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 326 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 279 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 328 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 311 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 300 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 421 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 385 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 323 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 280 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 427 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 419 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 517 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 430 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 437 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 327 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 314 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 291 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 319 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 292 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 342 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 453 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
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Re: Block Kings Chamber 322 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 277 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 248 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 268 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 244 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 265 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 248 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 284 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 294 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 293 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 284 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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