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"What then do you make of the total waste of time and energy associated with Tibetan Sand Mandalas? Or climbing the steps at Lourdes on one's knees?"

Ok, fair question. Indulge me in this long answer.

You're focusing on my point about the curious nature of seemingly 'unnecessary' level of precision, given the assumption that it was done without any tech advantage that might make it easy to do. And your point is that if a culture has demonstrated other tedious and inefficient means to executing a project, then its not a stretch to consider that its POSSIBLE therefore, that they could have undertaken an exceedingly challenging project who's primary goal isn't necessarily the end result, but more likely more about the humbling process of overcoming the hardship of achieving that difficult goal in the hardest means possible. Like a sort of expression of martyrdom in suffering. Its a very inspiring thing for people to see that degree of selflessness.

Its definitely a good point, in that across many cultures, there are countless examples of humanity demonstrating its humility and willingness to sacrifice to prove a worthiness of life through suffering. One version of that is the activity of mountaineering. If it was just about the goal of getting to the top, there are many ways that don't involve risking your life, but the journey is where man truly learns to appreciate life.

But there's one distinction I have to make there. When you make a piece of art or a monument to something, (which has to be a big part of why they made those caves, because you can't practically use a space you can't even have a conversation in because of the crazy reverberation and feedback echos), its intention is to affect people through the inspiration it will have on them by their comprehension of what it is. When you look at a Tibetan Sand Mandala, you can see what has gone into that art. You can see that it was made from individual specs of coloured sand, and from that recognition, you gain the intended inspiration. That is after all, the main goal of its creation, to inspire, because art is not for personal consumption, (its a form of communication which implies a dialogue). The one individual experiences the humbling effect of suffering through its creation, but its value is more in its ability to communicate that experience by eliciting an inspiring reaction from the many.

So if you want to inspire and elicit that reaction from a monument to 'suffering' say as an affirmation of the value of life through suffering and humility, then you do it as an outward visible monument like a giant sculpture with the best chances for that inspiration to happen. If you're going to try to make something out of the hardest rock, and do it in a way that will take orders of magnitude more time and careful slow progress, because your goal is a highly unlikely level of precision, then that thing you're making is not going to be the mere interior of a cave in my opinion.

This is how that particular applied logic fails the Occam's Razor for me with the Barabar caves. The interior of those caves limits the ease of who will see it, the impact from the achievement of that level of precision, (as the main expression of the 'suffering'), would likely be missed by most ancient people who would see it, so as an exercise of absolute cruel suffering and tedium in making it, it wouldn't even transmit the impact of that experience effectively, which is its sole purpose. So in that sense, the only value making those caves would have been for the handful of men who underwent that hardship in making it, which is a comically tiny subset of the number of people something like a 'monument to the value of life through suffering' should have been aimed to inspire.

On the balance, and along side the many other sites who's very existence implicate that confounding reaction, I still side with advanced civ explanation to allow for its existence being because it was easy for them to achieve, as opposed to the possibility of the achievement of a poorly conceived monument to the perfection of precision .



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02-Mar-20 20:28 by Open mind.

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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 501 DUNE 06-Nov-17 16:26
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 553 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:19
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 582 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 09:20
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 573 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 12:37
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Re: Chris Dunn interview - the scientific answer...the only answer imv 159 Open mind 18-Feb-20 23:35
striations... 163 Racho 19-Feb-20 00:18
Re: striations... 148 Open mind 19-Feb-20 00:25
Re: striations... 202 Racho 19-Feb-20 08:15
Re: striations... 152 Open mind 19-Feb-20 14:36
Re: striations... 130 cladking 19-Feb-20 16:55
Re: striations... 136 Enigcom 19-Feb-20 17:18
Re: striations... 134 cladking 19-Feb-20 18:45
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Re: striations... 129 Open mind 19-Feb-20 18:06
Re: striations... 112 cladking 19-Feb-20 18:58
Back to loving the people you hate and defame? 128 Hanslune 19-Feb-20 18:10
Re: Back to loving the people you hate and defame? 116 cladking 19-Feb-20 18:39
Just correcting the facts 122 Warwick 19-Feb-20 19:00
Re: Just correcting the facts 117 cladking 19-Feb-20 19:13
Nailing jello to the wall 115 Warwick 19-Feb-20 19:42
So what do you call it when you refuse to answer questions? 125 Hanslune 20-Feb-20 05:42
still in the hammer/chisel/sand abrasive camp...? 132 Racho 19-Feb-20 19:23
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given your answer... 132 Racho 19-Feb-20 19:57
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Re: Just correcting the facts 125 Hanslune 20-Feb-20 05:52
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Re: Where exactly are you with this premise Hans...? 132 WVK 22-Feb-20 18:43
Re: Where exactly is the advanced civilization? 123 Hanslune 20-Feb-20 18:20
following the evidence... 124 Racho 21-Feb-20 18:13
Re: following the evidence... 126 cladking 21-Feb-20 18:53
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Re: Chuckle 112 cladking 21-Feb-20 23:06
Re: Chuckle 106 Hanslune 21-Feb-20 23:27
Re: Chuckle 104 Warwick 23-Feb-20 20:09
Re: Chuckle 105 cladking 23-Feb-20 22:30
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Chuckle with a touch of Kooky too 101 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:28
For Hanslune (topic drift) 97 cladking 26-Feb-20 18:46
For Cladking being shown he is wrong again 98 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:16
existentialism 101 108 Warwick 27-Feb-20 17:02
Re: existentialism 101 99 cladking 27-Feb-20 21:31
Re: existentialism 101 102 Open mind 27-Feb-20 21:48
Re: existentialism 101 95 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:01
Re: existentialism 101 93 Warwick 01-Mar-20 18:51
Re: existentialism 101 97 Open mind 27-Feb-20 21:38
Touche et Riposte 100 Warwick 01-Mar-20 18:47
More Chuckles 110 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:12
Re: following the evidence... 118 Hanslune 21-Feb-20 22:08
Re: following the evidence... 108 cladking 21-Feb-20 23:11
Re: following the evidence... 116 Hanslune 21-Feb-20 23:31
Re: following the evidence... 128 Open mind 21-Feb-20 23:37
Re: following the evidence... 138 Thanos5150 22-Feb-20 16:40
Re: following the evidence... 123 Hanslune 23-Feb-20 01:56
Re: following the evidence... 137 Thanos5150 23-Feb-20 03:43
Re: following the evidence... 114 Open mind 23-Feb-20 17:36
Re: following the evidence... 134 Corpuscles 23-Feb-20 19:44
awesome description. 111 Warwick 23-Feb-20 19:56
Re: awesome description. 111 Open mind 23-Feb-20 23:55
Re: awesome description. 102 Corpuscles 24-Feb-20 23:35
Lost Stele found at Giza 103 Warwick 25-Feb-20 20:13
Re: Lost Stele found at Giza 100 Open mind 25-Feb-20 21:05
Re: following the evidence... 102 Open mind 23-Feb-20 23:52
Re: following the evidence... 107 Warwick 24-Feb-20 18:15
Re: following the evidence... 100 cladking 24-Feb-20 19:10
Re: following the evidence... 104 Warwick 24-Feb-20 19:36
Re: following the evidence... 106 cladking 24-Feb-20 20:04
Re: following the evidence... 103 Warwick 24-Feb-20 20:16
Re: following the evidence... 114 Hanslune 24-Feb-20 22:43
Re: following the evidence... 104 cladking 24-Feb-20 23:10
The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 110 Hanslune 24-Feb-20 23:46
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 114 Open mind 25-Feb-20 00:02
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 100 Warwick 25-Feb-20 19:56
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 97 cladking 25-Feb-20 20:02
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 104 Warwick 25-Feb-20 20:10
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 122 cladking 25-Feb-20 23:01
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 112 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 06:11
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 95 Warwick 26-Feb-20 17:24
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 104 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:19
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 108 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:15
Re: The problem is YOU Cladking not everyone else 96 Open mind 25-Feb-20 21:07
Open Mind is fully justified to be leery of reading Egyptological claptrap. 104 cladking 24-Feb-20 23:16
Re: following the evidence... 110 Open mind 24-Feb-20 23:41
Re: following the evidence... 110 Open mind 25-Feb-20 00:25
Re: following the evidence... 105 Warwick 25-Feb-20 19:45
Re: following the evidence... 108 Open mind 25-Feb-20 21:16
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Re: following the evidence... 138 Trevorjjj 29-Feb-20 00:13
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Re: following the evidence... 93 Open mind 02-Mar-20 02:30
India's history 111 Open mind 02-Mar-20 02:31
Invoking Ancient Advanced Civ 114 Open mind 02-Mar-20 05:18
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Re: Invoking Ancient Advanced Civ 114 Open mind 02-Mar-20 20:12
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the red Granite 101 Warwick 03-Mar-20 04:25
Re: the red Granite 103 Open mind 03-Mar-20 12:12
Re: the red Granite 93 Warwick 03-Mar-20 18:28
Re: the red Granite 93 Open mind 03-Mar-20 19:26
Re: the red Granite 107 Warwick 03-Mar-20 20:04
Re: the red Granite 110 Open mind 04-Mar-20 14:46
Re: the red Granite 112 Warwick 04-Mar-20 17:57
Re: the red Granite 129 Thanos5150 05-Mar-20 05:43
Re: the red Granite 103 Warwick 05-Mar-20 20:33
Re: the red Granite 131 Thanos5150 06-Mar-20 04:20
Re: the red Granite 97 Warwick 07-Mar-20 19:00
Re: the red Granite 117 SandyJesse 07-Mar-20 22:34
Re: the red Granite 162 Warwick 08-Mar-20 18:57
Re: following the evidence... 141 Racho 22-Feb-20 06:28
Re: Where exactly are you with this premise Hans...? 116 Warwick 20-Feb-20 18:33
Re: Back to loving the people you hate and defame? 114 Hanslune 20-Feb-20 05:50
Re: striations... 124 Open mind 20-Feb-20 16:27
Re: striations... 120 Trevorjjj 21-Feb-20 09:14
Re: striations... 127 Trevorjjj 21-Feb-20 09:22
Re: striations... 112 Open mind 21-Feb-20 13:01
Re: striations... 123 Open mind 21-Feb-20 13:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 539 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 507 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 556 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 527 eyeofhorus33 04-Nov-17 17:33
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 556 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 19:07
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 556 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 575 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:25
5th chamber? 736 Spiros 04-Nov-17 07:32
Re: 5th chamber? 591 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:22
Re: 5th chamber? 580 Spiros 05-Nov-17 14:27
Re: 5th chamber? 535 Spiros 05-Nov-17 18:08
Re: 5th chamber? 521 cladking 05-Nov-17 18:22
Re: 5th chamber? 564 Spiros 05-Nov-17 19:03
another option 603 Spiros 02-Dec-17 09:43
Re: 5th chamber? 605 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:49
Chamber on Safari? n/t 589 cladking 08-Nov-17 14:13
Re: 5th chamber? 569 Spiros 20-Nov-17 16:22
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 630 gulsbo 04-Nov-17 09:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 591 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 533 Romulus the 2nd 04-Nov-17 11:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 598 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 11:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 602 Spiros 04-Nov-17 12:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 483 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:43
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 488 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 526 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 579 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 103 cladking 26-Feb-20 17:48
simple question 104 Warwick 26-Feb-20 17:59
Re: simple question 108 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:04
Re: simple question 101 cladking 26-Feb-20 18:59
Simple question Cladking cannot answer 103 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:11
We are being bamboozled by Egyptologists. 119 cladking 26-Feb-20 19:22
Re: Simple question Cladking cannot answer - and still won't 102 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:24
We are being bamboozled by Egyptologists. 107 cladking 26-Feb-20 19:39
Watch Cladking running from a question 104 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 20:27
Re: Watch Cladking running from a question 99 cladking 27-Feb-20 02:13
...and he runs while screaming gibberish 101 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:13
1939 104 cladking 26-Feb-20 18:53
Show us the science Cladking what are you hiding? 107 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:19
are you confused? 103 Warwick 26-Feb-20 20:28
Re: are you confused? 110 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 20:46
Re: are you confused? 109 cladking 26-Feb-20 23:11
Re: are you confused? 102 Warwick 27-Feb-20 18:50
Re: are you confused? 103 cladking 27-Feb-20 21:28
Re: are you confused? 124 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:17
IOW's... 102 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:08
Re: are you confused? 95 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 594 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:31
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 583 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 543 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 593 Susan Doris 04-Nov-17 16:30
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 563 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:59
Update***** (wonderful news) 708 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:17
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HOLY MOLAR! 737 PB Bytes 04-Nov-17 21:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 671 Nejc01 04-Nov-17 23:34
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 563 Billy K 06-Nov-17 13:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 492 Nolondil 11-Feb-18 21:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 580 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Feb-18 00:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 519 SandyJesse 28-Feb-18 00:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 594 M. J. Thomas 28-Feb-18 00:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 667 SandyJesse 04-Mar-18 23:54
Re: Grand Gallery slots 480 M. J. Thomas 07-Mar-18 11:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 460 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 447 Jon Ellison 06-Mar-18 23:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 485 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 483 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 14:46
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 477 kborissov 05-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 431 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-18 22:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 449 kborissov 07-Apr-18 00:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 360 Sirfiroth 07-Apr-18 13:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 419 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 409 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 495 kborissov 07-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 494 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 499 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-18 09:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 492 Origyptian 07-Mar-18 14:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 521 cladking 07-Mar-18 15:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 441 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 15:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 535 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 22:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 144 Trevorjjj 19-Feb-20 21:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 106 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:16
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 559 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-18 22:53
Cavern in the Great Pyramid.... 420 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 16:09
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 441 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Sep-18 17:20
New chamber found in great pyramid, actually two...... 472 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 22:27
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 488 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Sep-18 12:41


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