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Open mind Wrote:
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> Precision itself has an independent evolution
> who's development is only ever advanced for
> specific purposes of benefit of that precision.
> Why bother pushing for precision if it won't
> benefit you in some way for some tool, or
> practical benefit? In other words, that advanced
> precision was developed for some purpose that we
> don't see in the archeological evidence, but the
> fact that those statues and sculpture exhibit the
> end result of that capability implies that the
> ability to have that level of precision was so
> universally implemented in so many area's of that
> civilization, that methods of sculpture benefited
> from it without even the necessity of it.
>
> Like the simple development of a pencil sharpener.
> Sharpening a pencil is the most basic thing you
> can do with a sharp knife. And pulling a pencil
> out of a sharpener reveals the point of the pencil
> is perfectly symmetrical, an effect of the
> sharpener that offers no actual benefit above and
> beyond what you get when you sharpen it with a
> knife. And yet its perfectly symmetrical, just
> because we have that technology available.
Precision is literally prima facie evidence that they both had the means and reason to achieve it. We shouldn't speculate too much on these reasons until such time as real modern science has had the opportunity to investigate the physical facts and characteristics of the artefacts.
> We gotta stop dumping on Egyptologists, because
> its all there for them to understand, but if we
> keep insulting them they'll never 'volunteer' to
> lose the spot light as the 'authority' of our
> human story.
Egyptology is stuck in the 19th century practicing occult "science" and voodoo. Until such time as they take the very first step toward the systematic and methodical application of modern knowledge and instrumentation to the study of egyptology they should get no "pass". We're just going to be treated to an endless stream of appeal to experts and dogma until we hold them to a minimum standard of actual science. For far too long they have simply claimed there is a mountain of evidence so data gathering isn't important. They simply claim that we already have answers to basic questions so it's irrelevant that the artefacts are precise or that the assumptions are unproven and even uninvestigated.
I certainly agree though that there is no need to dump on Egyptologists. We need to hold all of Egyptology to task but that doesn't include any personal attacks on any individuals at all. While I've in the past might seem to have "dumped" on an individual it was merely to use one as an example of what's wrong in Egyptology. I meant NO disrespect to any individual and hold Egyptologists in a lot of esteem. This includes the more famous ones as well as the young and struggling Egyptologists.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19-Feb-20 17:00 by cladking.
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> Precision itself has an independent evolution
> who's development is only ever advanced for
> specific purposes of benefit of that precision.
> Why bother pushing for precision if it won't
> benefit you in some way for some tool, or
> practical benefit? In other words, that advanced
> precision was developed for some purpose that we
> don't see in the archeological evidence, but the
> fact that those statues and sculpture exhibit the
> end result of that capability implies that the
> ability to have that level of precision was so
> universally implemented in so many area's of that
> civilization, that methods of sculpture benefited
> from it without even the necessity of it.
>
> Like the simple development of a pencil sharpener.
> Sharpening a pencil is the most basic thing you
> can do with a sharp knife. And pulling a pencil
> out of a sharpener reveals the point of the pencil
> is perfectly symmetrical, an effect of the
> sharpener that offers no actual benefit above and
> beyond what you get when you sharpen it with a
> knife. And yet its perfectly symmetrical, just
> because we have that technology available.
Precision is literally prima facie evidence that they both had the means and reason to achieve it. We shouldn't speculate too much on these reasons until such time as real modern science has had the opportunity to investigate the physical facts and characteristics of the artefacts.
> We gotta stop dumping on Egyptologists, because
> its all there for them to understand, but if we
> keep insulting them they'll never 'volunteer' to
> lose the spot light as the 'authority' of our
> human story.
Egyptology is stuck in the 19th century practicing occult "science" and voodoo. Until such time as they take the very first step toward the systematic and methodical application of modern knowledge and instrumentation to the study of egyptology they should get no "pass". We're just going to be treated to an endless stream of appeal to experts and dogma until we hold them to a minimum standard of actual science. For far too long they have simply claimed there is a mountain of evidence so data gathering isn't important. They simply claim that we already have answers to basic questions so it's irrelevant that the artefacts are precise or that the assumptions are unproven and even uninvestigated.
I certainly agree though that there is no need to dump on Egyptologists. We need to hold all of Egyptology to task but that doesn't include any personal attacks on any individuals at all. While I've in the past might seem to have "dumped" on an individual it was merely to use one as an example of what's wrong in Egyptology. I meant NO disrespect to any individual and hold Egyptologists in a lot of esteem. This includes the more famous ones as well as the young and struggling Egyptologists.
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19-Feb-20 17:00 by cladking.
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