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Manu Wrote:
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> A great example of this is well documented by
> Wolfgang Helck in Untersuchungen zur Thintenzeit
> and it is in the Mouth-Opening Ritual.

> Robert Schoch and I are about to publish this a
> part of a somewhat related investigation. It'll be
> out in about a month and I can tell you it is most
> fascinating. Needless to say, the literal
> translation of the PT in this segment at least
> only scratches the surface of the actual meaning
> intended of which there are two discernible deeper
> levels.

It does indeed sound interesting. I'm always very interested in what knowledgeable people such as yourself think of the language and its meaning. I'm always surprised how much meaning can be parsed out of an imparsable language. The human mind is simply geared to find meaning and does this on many levels at once so even if author intent is missed altogether there is still meaning that can be deduced. All of the translations appear to hit on aspects of what the authors were thinking!

> By the way Jim Allen acknowledges these
> deeper levels but concedes they are not always
> accessible from today's vantage point. Allen
> (2005):
>
> "The Pyramid Texts reflect not only an Egyptian
> vision of the afterlife but also the entire
> background of Old Kingdom religious and social
> structures, and they incorporate an ancient
> worldview much different from that of more
> familiar cultures. Two centuries of scholarship
> have allowed us to understand much of this
> background and worldview, but many of its aspects
> still remain obscure. Even in translation,
> therefore, the meaning of the texts and allusions
> within them are not always clear. I have tried to
> ameliorate this difficulty both by notes appended
> to the translations and by the Glossary at the end
> of the book; but such clarifications are not
> always possible in our current state of knowledge,
> and many passages or spells remain obscure. In
> such cases, I hope that the translation offered
> here will allow the reader to appreciate at least
> the language and flow of the texts, if not their
> precise import."

It might not seem so but I have a great deal of respect for James P Allen and his work. I'm normally forced to talk more about how wrong it is rather than what he gets right or the huge amount of scholarship that goes into it. But I am cognizant of the fact that his work takes far more knowledge, intelligence, and deduction than what I'm doing.

That he sees there are more levels here is very encouraging.

> So I think the problem isn't so much that there
> aren't Egyptologists who agree with your general
> thrust that the texts may have been misunderstood
> (see also Rolf Krauss for the astronomical
> angles), it's just that is not easy to prove so
> that all experts come on board.

I think bottom line is that no one is going to agree with me and work at it from my angle until it's proven they used funiculars or that there were geysers. None of this can happen until modern scientific knowledge is applied to the pyramids.

> Do the actual words used mean what
> you think they mean? What other meanings does the
> word mr have?

I'll look at this and consider it but to date There has been absolutely no communication on any level. At least I've understood nary a word from this source. I'm not sure there is any possible common ground.

> Edit: I can tell you this much: The English
> translation, or any other translation for that
> matter, is useless to get at these deeper levels.
> You actually have to work with the primary
> hieroglyphic text.

I do understand the weaknesses of my methods. But part of the problem here is that I seriously doubt that the translation methods are correct or even can be correct without understand the origins of the sceptres, glyphs, and icons themselves. For instance the "ankh", I believe, represents the water source in all its glory and means "life". I doubt it's possible to translate the language at all and it can't even be interpreted correctly without knowing these things. A literal translation would be interesting but the meaning won't appear in any language that can be parsed so no translation can ever be made into English and knowing why the ankh appears is necessary to its proper interpretation.

Thanks for the post. It's great to see you back.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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The King as Pyramid 8928 cladking 27-Oct-17 16:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 1054 Manu 27-Oct-17 17:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 971 cladking 27-Oct-17 18:20
Re: The King as Pyramid 836 cladking 28-Oct-17 00:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 786 Spiros 28-Oct-17 07:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 942 cladking 28-Oct-17 14:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 765 cladking 30-Oct-17 15:41
Re: The King as Pyramid 815 cladking 04-Nov-17 14:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 801 Spiros 04-Nov-17 15:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 799 cladking 05-Nov-17 01:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 1219 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 02:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 733 cladking 24-Nov-17 14:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 605 cladking 16-Feb-18 17:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 817 cladking 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 812 cladking 27-Oct-17 23:51
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 1193 cladking 29-Oct-17 14:39
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 680 Thunderbird 29-Oct-17 16:15
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 808 cladking 30-Oct-17 02:07
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 684 Hanslune 31-Oct-17 18:42
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 668 cladking 31-Oct-17 19:14
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 669 Hanslune 01-Nov-17 05:13
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 672 cladking 01-Nov-17 04:43
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 832 Hanslune 01-Nov-17 05:14
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 752 cladking 01-Nov-17 14:04
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 668 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 16:18
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 687 cladking 02-Nov-17 20:11
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 658 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 02:17
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 666 cladking 03-Nov-17 03:34
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 659 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 03:57
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 911 cladking 03-Nov-17 04:27
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 670 Manu 25-Feb-18 19:12
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 636 cladking 25-Feb-18 21:34
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 694 Manu 25-Feb-18 23:59
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 759 cladking 27-Feb-18 14:48
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 694 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 03:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 860 cladking 01-Nov-17 03:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 719 cladking 01-Nov-17 04:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 683 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 03:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 666 cladking 24-Nov-17 14:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 780 Tsurugi 25-Nov-17 06:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 738 cladking 25-Nov-17 14:59
Re: The King as Pyramid 635 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 03:50
The Kings... 616 Racho 27-Nov-17 05:52
Re: The Kings... 728 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 06:31
Re: The King as Pyramid 643 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 663 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 06:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 665 cladking 27-Nov-17 15:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 691 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 07:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 673 cladking 28-Nov-17 14:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 765 Tsurugi 29-Nov-17 10:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 819 cladking 29-Nov-17 14:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 697 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:10
Re: The King as Pyramid 720 Scott Creighton 01-Nov-17 17:00
Re: The King as Pyramid 892 cladking 01-Nov-17 17:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 830 eyeofhorus33 01-Nov-17 17:52
The King as Pyramid 773 Scott Creighton 02-Nov-17 01:11
The Wind Keeps Blowing Hard 765 Barbelo 02-Nov-17 01:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 643 eyeofhorus33 24-Nov-17 17:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 686 Scott Creighton 25-Nov-17 16:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 854 Thanos5150 02-Nov-17 06:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 914 Scott Creighton 02-Nov-17 09:55
Re: The King as Pyramid 682 Warwick 25-Nov-17 16:59
Re: The King as Pyramid 776 cladking 25-Nov-17 22:49
Wrong!! 673 Warwick 26-Nov-17 01:03
Re: Wrong!! 667 cladking 26-Nov-17 01:24
Re: Wrong!! 731 Warwick 26-Nov-17 02:20
Re: Wrong!! 662 Origyptian 26-Nov-17 10:49
Re: Wrong!! 689 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 11:25
Disco Reborn! n/t 676 cladking 26-Nov-17 14:04
Re: Wrong!! 647 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 04:03
Eternal Life 670 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:21
Re: Eternal Life 678 Corpuscles 27-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Eternal Life 691 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:10
Re: Wrong!! 647 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:11
Re: Wrong!! 667 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 06:58
Re: Wrong!! 707 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 07:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 852 Thanos5150 26-Nov-17 18:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 656 Thanos5150 26-Nov-17 20:23
Re: The King as Pyramid 614 Corpuscles 27-Nov-17 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 685 Origyptian 26-Nov-17 23:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 828 cladking 27-Nov-17 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 719 Thanos5150 27-Nov-17 16:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 844 cladking 27-Nov-17 18:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 693 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:09
One word 646 Warwick 27-Nov-17 14:04
fwiw 675 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:16
Re: fwiw 700 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:21
Re: fwiw 682 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:25
Re: fwiw 676 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:31
Re: fwiw 673 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:38
assuming of course, 668 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 714 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 624 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:14
Re: The King as Pyramid 698 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 633 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:30
Symbolism 688 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:43
Re: Symbolism 695 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:54
that's it!! 633 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:20
Re: Symbolism 704 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 16:57
please pay attention 657 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:14
Re: please pay attention 630 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 17:28
Eureka 687 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:35
Re: Eureka 697 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 17:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 664 Thanos5150 28-Nov-17 17:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 691 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:57
Re: The King as Pyramid 649 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 18:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 679 Warwick 28-Nov-17 19:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 693 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 20:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 733 Warwick 28-Nov-17 21:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 775 cladking 28-Nov-17 23:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 665 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 23:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 670 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 669 cladking 28-Nov-17 23:28
a simple question 695 Warwick 29-Nov-17 17:02
Re: a simple question 677 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:14
"reality.... 711 Warwick 29-Nov-17 17:24
Re: "reality.... 773 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 757 Thanos5150 29-Nov-17 00:52
typo 727 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:56
Re: typo 711 Thanos5150 29-Nov-17 17:52
It Represented the Dead King. 797 cladking 30-Nov-17 15:47
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 663 Warwick 02-Dec-17 17:19
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 648 cladking 02-Dec-17 18:44
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 633 Warwick 02-Dec-17 18:56
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 610 cladking 02-Dec-17 19:06
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 623 Warwick 02-Dec-17 19:36
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 786 cladking 02-Dec-17 20:18
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 790 Warwick 03-Dec-17 17:15
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 724 cladking 29-Jan-18 15:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 763 cladking 28-Nov-17 19:50
Now wait a minute 759 Warwick 28-Nov-17 20:07
Re: Now wait a minute 697 cladking 29-Nov-17 00:02
Re: Now wait a minute 700 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:33
Re: Now wait a minute 778 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:28
alt 802 Warwick 29-Nov-17 18:42
Re: alt 727 cladking 29-Nov-17 22:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 937 cladking 19-Dec-17 03:11
Re: The King as Pyramid 322 cladking 22-Jun-19 13:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 282 cladking 24-Jun-19 02:35
Eureka!! -deleted 660 cladking 28-Jan-18 18:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 612 cladking 05-Feb-18 16:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 622 Eddie Larry 05-Feb-18 16:30
Re: The King as Pyramid 702 cladking 05-Feb-18 17:00
Re: The King as Pyramid 653 cladking 07-Feb-18 00:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 649 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 623 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 615 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:18
They Refuse to Read it. 642 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 679 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 636 cladking 08-Feb-18 02:41
Re: The King as Pyramid 676 cladking 08-Feb-18 03:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 673 cladking 10-Feb-18 01:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 648 cladking 11-Feb-18 19:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 621 cladking 14-Feb-18 01:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 579 cladking 14-Feb-18 02:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 582 kborissov 14-Feb-18 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 588 cladking 14-Feb-18 03:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 617 kborissov 23-Feb-18 17:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 605 cladking 23-Feb-18 18:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 614 cladking 14-Feb-18 03:00
Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 683 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 03:50
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 599 cladking 14-Feb-18 15:08
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 596 Warwick 14-Feb-18 16:44
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 527 cladking 14-Feb-18 16:57
Translation 569 Warwick 14-Feb-18 18:43
Re: Translation 580 cladking 14-Feb-18 19:14
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 573 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 20:11
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 595 cladking 14-Feb-18 20:22
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 587 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 21:53
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 615 cladking 15-Feb-18 02:47
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 609 Barbelo 15-Feb-18 04:40
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 572 cladking 15-Feb-18 13:40
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 592 kborissov 15-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 579 cladking 15-Feb-18 15:05
kborissov is right 611 Barbelo 15-Feb-18 20:37
Re: kborissov is right 557 cladking 16-Feb-18 01:52
Re: kborissov is right 558 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 02:50
Re: kborissov is right 576 cladking 16-Feb-18 03:51
Carbonated Water 539 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 04:07
Re: Carbonated Water 560 Warwick 16-Feb-18 08:54
Re: Carbonated Water 584 cladking 16-Feb-18 15:27
Re: Carbonated Water 536 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 20:10
Re: Carbonated Water 611 cladking 16-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Carbonated Water 551 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 21:10
Don't Blink! 652 cladking 16-Feb-18 21:24
Fizzer 534 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 22:54
Re: Fizzer 603 cladking 16-Feb-18 23:02
Re: Fizzer 548 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 00:29
Re: Fizzer 576 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:27
Re: Fizzer 514 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 04:24
Re: Fizzer 675 cladking 17-Feb-18 20:15
Re: kborissov is right 575 Corpuscles 16-Feb-18 05:00
Tension Is Mounting 575 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 05:28
Re: Tension Is Mounting 617 cladking 16-Feb-18 14:11
Re: Tension Is Mounting 540 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 20:23
Re: Tension Is Mounting 568 cladking 16-Feb-18 21:18
Re: Tension Is Mounting 541 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 00:15
Re: Tension Is Mounting 533 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:37
Re: Tension Is Mounting 538 Barbelo 17-Feb-18 04:06
Re: Tension Is Mounting 516 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 04:31
Re: Tension Is Mounting 550 cladking 17-Feb-18 13:47
Re: Tension Is Mounting 585 Origyptian 17-Feb-18 05:44
Re: Tension Is Mounting 569 cladking 17-Feb-18 14:29
Re: Tension Is Mounting 531 Morten 17-Feb-18 15:05
Re: Tension Is Mounting 583 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:39
Re: Tension Is Mounting 557 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:17
Re: Tension Is Mounting 539 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Tension Is Mounting 527 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:42
Re: kborissov is right 571 cladking 16-Feb-18 14:44
Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 599 Corpuscles 18-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 614 cladking 18-Feb-18 23:00
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 594 Corpuscles 18-Feb-18 23:29
When Your Goose Is Cooked 563 Barbelo 18-Feb-18 23:53
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 606 cladking 19-Feb-18 01:04
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 588 Warwick 19-Feb-18 16:44
Assumptions vs Evidence. 984 cladking 19-Feb-18 17:44
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 614 cladking 19-Feb-18 03:24
Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 566 Corpuscles 21-Feb-18 02:03
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 599 cladking 21-Feb-18 03:02
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 580 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 15:01
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 537 cladking 22-Feb-18 15:23
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 536 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 15:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 600 Steve Clayton 22-Feb-18 18:39
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 530 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:05
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 595 Steve Clayton 22-Feb-18 20:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 596 cladking 22-Feb-18 21:22
What Is Osiris? 542 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 22:00
Re: What Is Osiris? 543 cladking 22-Feb-18 22:32
Osiris Was A Geyser : Debunked 583 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 22:52
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 564 Steve Clayton 23-Feb-18 01:43
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 538 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 592 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 02:31
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 632 cladking 24-Feb-18 02:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 609 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 19:48
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 632 cladking 24-Feb-18 22:08
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 561 Steve Clayton 28-Feb-18 02:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 578 cladking 28-Feb-18 03:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 586 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:19
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 547 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 20:03
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 563 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:05
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 566 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:15
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 602 Steve Clayton 25-Feb-18 18:21
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 576 cladking 25-Feb-18 22:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 661 Steve Clayton 26-Feb-18 00:10
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 628 Thanos5150 22-Feb-18 16:20
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 544 Thanos5150 22-Feb-18 16:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 556 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 16:47
Nonsense! 545 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:43
Re: Nonsense! 606 Warwick 22-Feb-18 20:14
Bon Appetit 574 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 20:07
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 578 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:34
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 573 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 21:19
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 563 cladking 22-Feb-18 22:46
So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 588 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 23:01
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 559 cladking 22-Feb-18 23:13
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 613 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 00:40
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 599 Origyptian 23-Feb-18 13:48
So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 563 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 20:44
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 546 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:39
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 594 Origyptian 24-Feb-18 03:18
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 549 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 05:37
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 562 Origyptian 24-Feb-18 12:02
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 575 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 19:50
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 587 cladking 24-Feb-18 20:51
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 564 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 21:11
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 587 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:28
Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 557 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 23:38
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 570 cladking 25-Feb-18 00:21
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 561 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 01:00
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 541 cladking 25-Feb-18 01:50
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 582 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 04:05
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 554 Thanos5150 25-Feb-18 01:31
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 529 cladking 25-Feb-18 01:47
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 556 Thanos5150 25-Feb-18 02:09
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 523 cladking 25-Feb-18 03:20
Re: More deflections and indefensible assertions 588 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 03:34
Origyptian Can't Answer The Questions 558 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 04:14
Re: Origyptian Can't Answer The Questions 560 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 04:17
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 599 Martin Stower 24-Feb-18 14:04
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 594 cladking 24-Feb-18 15:43
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 540 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:20
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 550 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:29
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 559 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:36
DEBUNKED 615 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 21:51
Re: DEBUNKED 542 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:07
Re: DEBUNKED 593 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 23:20
Re: DEBUNKED 529 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:29
Re: DEBUNKED 600 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 02:25
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Re: DEBUNKED 592 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 05:42
Re: DEBUNKED 503 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:15
Re: DEBUNKED 573 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 23:31
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 581 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 22:25
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 594 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 22:34
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 606 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 559 cladking 23-Feb-18 14:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 573 cladking 23-Feb-18 15:20
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 564 cladking 22-Feb-18 20:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 601 cladking 15-Feb-18 14:02
Re: The King as Pyramid 576 kborissov 15-Feb-18 15:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 655 cladking 15-Feb-18 17:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 640 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 18:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 608 cladking 15-Feb-18 21:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 589 eyeofhorus33 25-Feb-18 18:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 566 cladking 25-Feb-18 21:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 810 cladking 25-Feb-18 05:00
I love this subthread! 650 cladking 01-Mar-18 19:17
Re: I love this subthread! 606 Origyptian 01-Mar-18 19:34
Re: I love this subthread! 570 Jon Ellison 02-Mar-18 00:01
Re: I love this subthread! 625 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 02:14
Re: I love this subthread! 643 cladking 02-Mar-18 20:50
Re: I love this subthread! 720 cladking 03-Mar-18 01:40
Re: I love this subthread! 168 seasmith 13-Nov-19 05:14
Re: I love this subthread! 175 cladking 14-Nov-19 01:25
Re: I love this subthread! 204 cladking 13-Nov-19 01:33
Re: I love this subthread! 297 cladking 19-Nov-19 02:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 600 cladking 25-Feb-18 05:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 583 Corpuscles 25-Feb-18 07:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 573 cladking 25-Feb-18 14:52
Geysers Are DEBUNKED 592 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 23:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 652 cladking 28-Feb-18 01:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 575 cladking 01-Mar-18 01:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 674 Manu 01-Mar-18 07:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 638 cladking 01-Mar-18 14:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 568 Manu 01-Mar-18 15:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 555 cladking 01-Mar-18 16:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 550 Manu 01-Mar-18 16:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 586 Origyptian 01-Mar-18 17:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 587 cladking 01-Mar-18 19:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 598 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 16:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 560 cladking 02-Mar-18 17:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 560 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 20:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 581 cladking 02-Mar-18 20:30
Re: The King as Pyramid 569 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 21:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 574 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 22:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 558 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 604 cladking 02-Mar-18 23:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 593 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 02:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 656 cladking 03-Mar-18 03:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 562 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 585 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 561 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 590 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 549 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 20:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 615 cladking 01-Mar-18 17:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 574 cladking 01-Mar-18 18:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 611 cladking 01-Mar-18 01:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 669 cladking 04-Mar-18 00:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 591 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 643 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:23
Deceitful Nonsense 684 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 02:25
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 607 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 03:22
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 567 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 601 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 603 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 06:20
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 585 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 07:06
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 660 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 07:31
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 594 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 07:52
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 584 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 10:37
Dances With Dead Kings. 698 cladking 05-Mar-18 14:57
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 632 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:33
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 637 cladking 06-Mar-18 01:06
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 598 cladking 06-Mar-18 01:13
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 605 Manu 06-Mar-18 13:13
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 600 cladking 06-Mar-18 14:55
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 564 Manu 06-Mar-18 16:07
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 609 cladking 06-Mar-18 20:20
Re: Dances With Dead Gods. 576 cladking 06-Mar-18 20:53
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 589 cladking 07-Mar-18 03:19
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 591 Corpuscles 06-Mar-18 04:57
Never Mind : It's Only Madness 676 Barbelo 06-Mar-18 05:51
Re: Never Mind : It's Only Madness 572 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 15:09
Please pay attention 632 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:44
Re: Please pay attention 571 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:07
Re: Please pay attention 559 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:37
Re: Never Mind : It's Only Madness 756 cladking 07-Mar-18 03:58
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 556 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:34
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 589 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 714 cladking 12-Apr-18 01:51
-deleted 275 cladking 08-May-19 02:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 660 cladking 11-May-18 01:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 553 cladking 30-May-18 02:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 695 cladking 30-May-18 03:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 563 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 605 cladking 01-Jun-18 23:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 609 cladking 02-Jun-18 13:46
Cenotaph! 595 cladking 09-Jun-18 14:37
Re: Cenotaph! 533 Origyptian 10-Jun-18 16:04
Re: Cenotaph! 609 cladking 10-Jun-18 17:40
The Pyramid as Egyptians! 655 cladking 16-Oct-18 14:01
Re: The King as Pyramid 606 cladking 17-Jun-18 16:20
Re: The King as Pyramid 562 drew 18-Jun-18 01:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 577 cladking 18-Jun-18 13:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 531 drew 19-Jun-18 02:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 564 Thunderbird 20-Jun-18 21:00
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 549 drew 20-Jun-18 23:11
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 520 Thunderbird 21-Jun-18 01:38
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 592 drew 21-Jun-18 03:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 564 kborissov 18-Jun-18 01:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 518 cladking 18-Jun-18 14:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 642 cladking 18-Jun-18 14:23
Re: The King as Pyramid 618 cladking 03-Oct-18 01:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 477 cladking 15-Oct-18 00:09
Re: The King as Pyramid 328 cladking 08-Jul-19 00:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 511 cladking 16-Oct-18 01:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 668 cladking 08-Nov-18 21:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 476 cladking 02-Feb-19 01:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 395 engbren 02-Feb-19 12:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 439 cladking 02-Feb-19 15:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 407 cladking 02-Feb-19 20:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 455 cladking 03-Feb-19 21:27
We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 458 cladking 04-Feb-19 15:19
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 431 LonelyAngel 04-Feb-19 15:50
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 432 cladking 04-Feb-19 16:33
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 419 Warwick 04-Feb-19 18:39
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 374 cladking 04-Feb-19 19:01
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 399 Warwick 04-Feb-19 19:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 420 cladking 03-Feb-19 02:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 367 cladking 06-Feb-19 16:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 335 cladking 08-Feb-19 02:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 394 drew 09-Feb-19 05:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 371 cladking 09-Feb-19 14:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 352 drew 10-Feb-19 00:39
Re: The King as Pyramid 355 cladking 10-Feb-19 02:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 427 drew 10-Feb-19 04:01
The Species with no Brain. 419 cladking 10-Feb-19 15:03
Re: The Species with no Brain. 386 Warwick 10-Feb-19 18:13
Re: The Species with no Brain. 365 cladking 10-Feb-19 18:59
Re: The Species with no Brain. 342 Warwick 10-Feb-19 19:52
Re: The Species with no Brain. 463 cladking 10-Feb-19 20:01
Re: The Species with no Brain. 455 drew 14-Feb-19 01:29
Re: The Species with no Brain. 387 cladking 14-Feb-19 14:25
Re: The Species with no Brain. 387 drew 14-Feb-19 23:38
Re: The Species with no Brain. 381 cladking 15-Feb-19 14:05
Re: The Species with no Brain. 362 drew 16-Feb-19 06:54
Erratum 368 eyeofhorus33 16-Feb-19 07:54
Re: Erratum 362 cladking 16-Feb-19 14:47
Re: Erratum 375 cladking 16-Feb-19 15:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 446 cladking 16-Feb-19 18:27
Re: Erratum 453 Warwick 17-Feb-19 19:07
Re: Erratum 385 cladking 17-Feb-19 19:39
Re: Erratum 353 Warwick 17-Feb-19 20:40
Re: Erratum 401 cladking 18-Feb-19 14:37
Re: Erratum 410 drew 16-Feb-19 23:52
Re: Erratum 367 eyeofhorus33 17-Feb-19 07:32
Re: Erratum 355 drew 19-Feb-19 21:29
Sound and fury 351 eyeofhorus33 21-Feb-19 15:21
Re: Sound and fury 372 cladking 21-Feb-19 15:37
Metaphysical Language 333 eyeofhorus33 21-Feb-19 19:47
Re: Metaphysical Language 344 cladking 22-Feb-19 02:27
Re: Metaphysical Language 362 Warwick 22-Feb-19 03:19
Unbelievable! 339 Warwick 21-Feb-19 20:02
Re: Unbelievable! 350 cladking 22-Feb-19 02:17
Re: Erratum 437 cladking 17-Feb-19 14:40
Re: The Species with no Brain. 427 cladking 16-Feb-19 15:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 396 cladking 20-Feb-19 01:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 398 drew 21-Feb-19 00:01
Cladders... have you seen this? 364 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 13:57
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 336 cladking 22-Feb-19 14:51
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 367 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 15:05
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 356 cladking 22-Feb-19 15:27
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 340 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 16:22
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 344 cladking 22-Feb-19 19:59
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 362 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 20:33
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 375 cladking 23-Feb-19 18:50
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 358 eyeofhorus33 23-Feb-19 20:25
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 446 cladking 23-Feb-19 21:13
Tombs are for Dead People. 377 cladking 28-Feb-19 03:03
The King is the Pyramid. 446 cladking 23-Mar-19 13:23
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 539 cladking 01-Mar-19 23:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 367 cladking 22-Mar-19 20:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 333 cladking 31-Mar-19 03:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 338 cladking 03-Apr-19 01:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 381 cladking 13-Apr-19 18:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 435 cladking 19-Apr-19 13:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 289 cladking 08-May-19 03:40
In Summation. 322 cladking 08-May-19 13:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 275 cladking 03-Jun-19 03:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 255 Warwick 03-Jun-19 18:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 250 cladking 04-Jun-19 01:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 284 SandyJesse 04-Jun-19 03:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 305 SandyJesse 04-Jun-19 04:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 280 cladking 04-Jun-19 13:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 286 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 05:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 265 cladking 14-Jun-19 13:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 262 SandyJesse 16-Jun-19 05:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 231 cladking 16-Jun-19 13:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 253 Warwick 04-Jun-19 16:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 256 cladking 04-Jun-19 20:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 257 Thanos5150 04-Jun-19 23:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 261 cladking 05-Jun-19 00:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 264 Thanos5150 05-Jun-19 01:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 261 Warwick 05-Jun-19 16:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 280 cladking 06-Jun-19 13:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 253 drew 15-Jun-19 02:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 242 cladking 16-Jun-19 00:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 249 drew 16-Jun-19 01:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 336 cladking 07-Jun-19 03:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 274 drew 15-Jun-19 02:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 260 cladking 16-Jun-19 00:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 267 drew 18-Jun-19 01:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 244 Warwick 18-Jun-19 17:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 248 cladking 19-Jun-19 00:08
A bit of sky 262 drew 20-Jun-19 01:41
Re: A bit of sky 232 cladking 21-Jun-19 13:38
Re: A bit of sky 261 drew 25-Jun-19 06:51
Re: A bit of sky 219 cladking 25-Jun-19 13:52
Re: A bit of sky 277 drew 26-Jun-19 00:47
Re: A bit of sky 240 cladking 25-Jun-19 14:05
Re: A bit of sky 230 Warwick 25-Jun-19 16:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 272 rulebook54 21-Jun-19 15:01
Re: The King as Pyramid 384 cladking 26-Jun-19 14:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 292 cladking 07-Jul-19 02:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 117 drew 09-Jan-20 23:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 129 cladking 11-Jan-20 01:57
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 85 Corpuscles 29-Feb-20 00:11
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 92 Corpuscles 29-Feb-20 00:14
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 94 Corpuscles 29-Feb-20 01:23
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 105 cladking 29-Feb-20 02:57
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 103 cladking 29-Feb-20 03:40
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 81 Warwick 01-Mar-20 20:09
Where are the quarry workers. 76 cladking 01-Mar-20 21:54
Re: Where are the quarry workers. 78 Warwick 01-Mar-20 22:11
Re: Where are the quarry workers. 77 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:26
Re: Where are the quarry workers. 78 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:01
Corpuscles on a very high horse 82 drew 01-Mar-20 22:55
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 77 cladking 01-Mar-20 23:29
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 87 Corpuscles 01-Mar-20 23:54
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 92 cladking 02-Mar-20 01:31
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 87 Manu 02-Mar-20 02:53
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 99 cladking 02-Mar-20 03:28
Re: Corpuscles on a very high horse 85 drew 02-Mar-20 03:49
Corpuscles on a very low horse 80 drew 02-Mar-20 03:44
ps 81 drew 02-Mar-20 03:46
Re: ps 80 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:19
Re: ps 80 thinkitover 03-Mar-20 00:07
Re: ps 77 Warwick 03-Mar-20 00:24
Re: ps 75 cladking 03-Mar-20 01:14
Re: ps 78 cladking 03-Mar-20 01:16
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 86 Thanos5150 29-Feb-20 17:08
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 122 cladking 29-Feb-20 17:38
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 90 Thanos5150 01-Mar-20 16:22
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 80 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:05
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 80 Thanos5150 02-Mar-20 16:12
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 76 cladking 02-Mar-20 17:43
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 83 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:31
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 78 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:12
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 78 Warwick 01-Mar-20 22:20
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 79 cladking 01-Mar-20 22:32
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 74 Warwick 02-Mar-20 18:09
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 83 cladking 02-Mar-20 20:32
Re: The King as Pyramid - Corpuscles question 72 Warwick 02-Mar-20 23:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 327 cladking 27-Oct-19 01:06
The King's Kilt as Pyramid? 170 thinkitover 15-Nov-19 00:50
The King as a Star 130 cladking 09-Jan-20 22:32
Re: The King as a Star 106 drew 09-Jan-20 23:18
Re: The King as a Star 135 cladking 11-Jan-20 02:11
Re: The King as a Star 159 cladking 11-Jan-20 14:47
Reliving the past 104 drew 03-Mar-20 03:47
An example 82 drew 03-Mar-20 21:22
Re: An example 84 cladking 03-Mar-20 21:42
Re: Reliving the past 122 cladking 03-Mar-20 23:01
Re: The King as Pyramid 230 cladking 25-Apr-20 19:48


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