> It does not take anymore than a very basic,
> roughly accurate elevation and plan view of the
> suggested construction technique for the
> difficulties to stand out like proverbial 'big
> dogs testicles'.
I've been working on this for years. It would be a little surprising if anyone understood it in a few minutes. It's simple enough a caveman could do it but it's not easily visualized.
> -Using a scale (in inches for you) 1 inch equals
> 50 yards= 150' draw a triangle (pyramid in
> elevation) of
> 756 feet in base (bit over 5") and 480 feet in
> vertical height (bit over 3") Rough enough will
> do for now.
> -Draw faint lines representing 81'3" levels or
> tiers from base (bit over half inch or .54 inch
> -Then draw in the 70deg tiers proposed (as
> detailed in your responses below)
> -Then using schoolboy rule project all points
> downwards (you may need to sticky tape another A4
> sheet) to produce a plan view. (It should look
> like a big set of concentric squares)
> Then note how little space is available for work ,
> (stone block landing , funicular ropes, etc)
> in the thin edges of the step pyramid,
> It maybe beyond your pay grade but if you do some
> basic schoolboy trigonometry you will find that
> such space works out to be 34- 39 feet (approx. 10
> yards) depending on 70 or 72 degrees of tier
This is some 8 acres of work room. That's a far sight more than any ramp system and since the water is doing all the work they need far less work room. They had so much room to work they built half steps and cladded isolated areas to keep the boats and mines working.
> I will withhold comment on this part until you
> draw the required diagram. Note I am not asking
> you to post it via imgur or photobucket JUST
> DRAW IT!!!
Photobucket is deleting all my pictures and this is one of the last ones left.
> You struggle with trig but OK, for now let's just
> pretend I believe the geyser is possible. (SHOCK
> Actually being 10' feet North of North face it
> would require it to shoot 103 feet at least
The water sprayed almost straight up and was caught in the upper eye of horus in the mehet weret directly overhead. It was then channeled the short distance to the pyramid.
> The accepted final height was 480' 6". So if you
> press the buttons on the calculator carefully and
> slower you might realise your imagined top tier
> would have to be 74' 3" rather than 79' .
> - Your most forgivable and irrelevant mistake
This would be a pretty serious error in my book. I haven't modeled this in a while but the steps on the great pyramids each had to be lower than the "3b3w". Using Petrie's course numbers I thought I came out at 79' for the pyramid on top, but you're right, this can wait for now.
> OK . Lets continue to imagine I accept the geyser.
> It gets water to a vertical height of 81'3". It
> is a big lake. Note if it was 2.5 stone layers
> deep then due to the specific gravity of limestone
> of approx. 2.5 (Water SG =1) then the entire lake
> reserve would have enough water to raise ONLY one
> layer of stones. The geyser would have to produce
> enormous output to not cause very considerable
> time delay.
Yes. Even mother nature had to strain a bit to build this thing in 20 years. Imagine what it wouldda done to bumpkins!
The eruption was nearly continuous. In the early stages they could save appreciable quantities on the pyramid at night but as the first step approached 81' 3" this quantity was greatly reduced. But by the time the first step was done a large percentage of total lifting was complete. They weren't helpless without an eruption since water could be relifted by hand. Indeed, it appears they used the north and west sides for this as well as the grand gallery. So long as they had water in the ssm.t to bring stone from the quarry they could lift more to operate the pyramid counterweights. Remember the oryx on the henu boat. They were saying they didn't need much stinkin' water.
The entire project would have required only some 400 acre feet of water or 20 acre feet per year. This would be a lot for any modern geyser but they knew far more about geysers than we do and had centuries of experience maximizing the flow and the efficiency of the operation.
> MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.
> How does the water get higher up the
> pyramid the remaining circa 400feet!!! to
> operate the "counterweight funiculars"?????
It's best to think of the answer as "3b3w" however it appears that at G1 they shuttled some water to 340'. I'd guess if they went to so much work to relay water up 70 or 80' at a time it was an important reason though I haven't yet deduced this reason.
Don't think of the water being over 80' (it was but this will just confuse things). They used the water at 80' to lift the stones to the top of the first step. But then all they had to do was shorten the ropes a bit and they could lift the stones even higher and start a second step. This was Imhotep's idea in all probability. Think of all the counterweights falling from 80' and the stones being pulled up one step at a time. Of course they'd fill up large parts of the step top before repositioning the ropes to pull them up to the second step top. Using the east and west main counterweights on the north side they could easily pull them up one step after another to minimize the amount of staging on steps.
> Very good. It would be complicated by the friction
> on the incline and the angle but are not you now
> talking about a RAMP!?
If I use that word people will picture individuals with tinea and superstitions slipping and sliding on greasy sloped surfaces but no stones were ever lifted by men to build these. The slopes were quite slippery and only about 5 degrees.
> How the feck did the builders do it (G3 and
> thereafter) without water? What........OMG .....
> dragging stones up RAMPS ????
I'm guessing they replaced atum with muscle power for G3 and after this they built them with ramps. It doesn't so much matter how they built the piles of rubble. Even though they required more human toil and sweat than real pyramids they are well within human capabilities.