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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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>
> > It's an interesting piece.
> >
> > It appears too thin to be a load-bearing "wheel";
> > only appears to be a couple mm thick.
>
> I'd say it's at least an inch thick, but no this
> does not appear to be a working vertical load
> bearing wheel. Perhaps it is a model of one, the
> AE were quite fond of making models of things. Its
> shape reminds me of the model vehicles found in
> Anatolia arguably dated to 5500BC:
> [trthaberstatic.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com]

I'd love to know what's considered "arguable" about the 5500BC dating of that piece other than the museum stating that it's at least that old.


> > The center
> > hole doesn't appear to go all the way though. The
> > lighting in that central depression is shaded to
> > imply it's a closed, rounded bottom.
>
> This does appear to be the case. It would be nice
> to see the other side of this object but I am
> striking out. This was part of a large burial site
> in Lahoun.
>
> > Perhaps a serving dish with a center well for a
> > sauce, caviar, toothpicks. Maybe a decorative lamp
> > (center hole for a candle or oil pool).
>
> I assume you are joking about the serving well,

Not really. In fact, when I mag the image, the outer edge of the plate seems like it could be bent up slightly to form a curved lip. Possibly it was a dish for holding bread, veggies, or fruit and the well was for royal jellies, etc. How can anyone be sure?


> but given its unnecessarily large flange compared
> to the collar, assuming the hole does not go all
> the way through and the other side is flat, it
> seems probable this was base to hold a shaft
> mounted object.

That doesn't hit the threshold of "probable" to me. Only "possibile", just as I see other possibilities. Possibly a serving disk, possibly an oil lamp or candlestick, possibly an inverted potters wheel...


> > It looks similar to the infamous very thin "schist bowl",
>
> The "flywheel":
> [i.imgur.com]
>
> > but flattened, without the folds or thicker
> > perimeter, thicker collar, and a rounded
> > depression in the center rather than the hole
> > going all the way through.
>
> So other than the collar in the middle and overall
> circular shape, actually not very "similar" but
> quite different.

It looks a lot thinner than 1" thick to me. We can see what appears to be pebbles of rubble in the shadow under the edge of that disk. And so its thinness also is reminescent of that schist object. Do you think it's alabaster?


> > There are what appears
> > to be fragments of thin bowls and pedestals in the
> > vicinity.
>
> The "vicinity" is the tomb. 14 of the tombs found
> dated to the 2nd Dynasty which I cannot find any
> more information on it other than the initial
> press release.

What human remains were found in these "tombs"? Why do you suppose the pottery is busted up but no one seems to have touched the wood?


> Regardless of what it was for it is a wheel shaped
> object nonetheless.

Agreed, other than its thinness and what appears to be a rounded dead end at the bottom of the central hole.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 29-Oct-17 20:04 by Origyptian.

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Mastaba of Shepsekaf 1903 Thanos5150 25-Oct-17 04:25
Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 364 Racho 25-Oct-17 06:11
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 312 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 02:26
Why adapted/adopted 273 Racho 31-Oct-17 07:44
Re: Why adapted/adopted 407 Jon Ellison 31-Oct-17 09:25
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 324 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:57
Gables v Arch 267 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:47
Re: Gables v Arch 274 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 04:47
Re: Gables v Arch 274 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 05:12
Re: Gables v Arch 248 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Gables v Arch 318 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 06:49
An Interesting Curve 297 Jon Ellison 26-Oct-17 23:20
Re: Gables v Arch 239 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 00:34
Re: Gables v Arch 241 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 01:19
Re: Gables v Arch 249 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:36
Re: Gables v Arch 239 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:49
Re: Gables v Arch 245 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:05
Re: Gables v Arch 241 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 02:17
Re: Gables v Arch 246 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:27
Re: Gables v Arch 236 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 03:40
Re: Gables v Arch 253 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 05:22
Re: Gables v Arch 252 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 06:45
Gables v Arch vs Truss 284 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 19:33
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 267 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 20:50
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 231 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:20
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 230 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 407 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 261 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:34
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 426 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 264 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:08
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 292 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 18:13
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 239 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Gables v Arch 261 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 21:40
Re: Gables v Arch 279 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:40
Re: Gables v Arch 317 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 00:01
Re: Gables v Arch 336 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 10:03
Re: Gables v Arch 276 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 10:56
Re: Gables v Arch 405 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 13:30
Re: Gables v Arch 257 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 19:57
Re: Gables v Arch 223 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 22:45
Re: Gables v Arch 240 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 23:05
Re: Gables v Arch 254 R Avry Wilson 28-Oct-17 23:48
Re: Gables v Arch 289 Corpuscles 29-Oct-17 00:51
Re: Gables v Arch 269 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:19
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 315 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 02:31
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 272 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 239 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:50
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 278 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 23:46
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 361 DUNE 27-Oct-17 07:58
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 243 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:04
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 261 DUNE 27-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 558 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 02:34
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 399 Corpuscles 28-Oct-17 04:43
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 259 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 428 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 307 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:16
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 397 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 307 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 14:09
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 314 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 16:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 320 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 16:56
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 282 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 16:00
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 271 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:26


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