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Thunderbird Wrote:
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> Okay back to basics. If we can get beyond concrete
> mixing with a bucket and shovel:) 
> Four states of matter.. 
> Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma. 
> It's fairly easy to put all matter through the
> first three stages through molecular agitation
> because at some time in the past we figured out
> how to make and control fire. 
> Plasma is more difficult. 
> Is there another way?
>
> Hi Jon
>
> During my 2 decade + career in oil and nat gas
> process fabrication,
> Ran a CNC plasma gantry. ...underwater cut...50
> ton remote control cranes.
> Ran on cryogenic Nitrogen.
>
> Part of my daily duties was metallurgy
> inspection...go thru the numbers of the contract
> via math .
> Also did Ultrasound inspection on steel and alloy
> plate.
> Just like Ultrasound to look at Baby.
>
> It's heady stuff to recognize the plate is in
> atomic vibration resonance.
>
> One can change Atomic structure with heat and
> explosive force. ...a more subtle form of access
> is possible.
>
> You dial in via frequency. ...possibly this is the
> Pervue of Harmonics and Phase.
> Kind like Shields in Star Trek Voyager or Stargate
> TV series.
>
> We play around with similar phasic signature
> alteration.
> It's different than Atomic collider ...like CERN.
>
> It's also Electric Universe ...they seem joined at
> the hip.
>
> What's really heady (pun)....is Thought and
> Dimensional vibration.
> Thought is faster than Light...
> Thought is Quantum. ...can access the
> Phasic/Vibration reality of the atomic bond.
>
> We can see** into the atomic lattice!
>
> Can we change the Atomic to reshape it by our Will
> ?....become God's? .
>
> It's realistically just Science Law**... : )
>
> Mythology and sound levitating large blocks. ..
> Stories of blocks moving thru the air to
> music/chanting.
>
>
> Ya...I know ancient people were high on mushrooms
> to Marijuana,
> Yet the Mythology seems to have a Candid
> definition of function which is right up there
> with our present Sci Fi novels/Movies.
>
> The Movie Dune is fabulous journey into Sci Fi and
> possibility
>
>
>
> T Bird

There's definitely something to that general principle. One problem that tends to defocus it is that too many people jump on the bandwagon and distort it into things that drag a pure concept way off road into the swamp. For example, the Coral Castle can be explained by classical mechanics; no need to conjure up the notion that Ed was somehow mixed up with some anti-gravity force field. One quick visit to the site clears up any doubt or confusion.

The thing that drives new discovery is often the need to overcome a challenge. Few discoveries are made without humans being confronted with a problem they need to solve. One problem we have in studying ancient stonework is that we unfortunately already know how to make tools that can quarry granite or lathe a column, and it's very hard for us to unremember that, to wipe our minds clear, and to try to start from scratch to develop the testing, prototypes, etc. that would solve such problems.

But one look at those bizarre stone formations in the Andes, or certain structures in Egypt, Baalbek, etc., reveals that intelligent life didn't always think like we do today. They had a different logic, a different approach to problem solving. And it's very challenging for us to try to think like they did so that we can figure out how they did things.

We don't really know what problems the original builders encountered that inspired them to do that stonework. Was it massive floods and earthquakes that inspired those seamless walls made of bulbous rocks in Peru and the enormous 2000 ton megaliths in Baalbek? Was it astronomical doom, intergalactic war, or enormous draught that inspired the pyramids? Was there one or more sophisticated technological civilizations on Earth untold millennia ago, that were far more intelligent than modern humans, who needed a long-term solution for an imminent disaster? Did Earth pass through some unknown energy/plasma/ether field that turned anything with a brain into a 10x genius?

If I have any "bias", it's that I'm generally biased against orthodoxy, mainly because history shows that adhering to orthodoxy prohibits discovery, and"orthodoxy" is not how Nature works. Orthodoxy constrains adaptation; it keeps us in the dark by propagating early, simplistic, undeveloped notions about the way things are and imposes inertia against improving or developing the notion any further.

A bias against orthodoxy produced Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, Einstein, and Tesla. Without such "bias", we'd still be wearing loin cloths lighting fires in caves. So yes, I do have a bias, and it's a bias to consider the unconsidered and to question mainstream at every turn. Only in that way do I see a path that leads us to the facts and the truth about our origins.

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Huge stones by molding 2641 foleox 21-Aug-17 19:38
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 547 SallyA 22-Aug-17 23:03
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 504 Origyptian 25-Aug-17 16:49
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 591 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 19:10
Any Explanation? 529 Barbelo 27-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Any Explanation? 535 eyeofhorus33 27-Aug-17 21:34
Re: Any Explanation? 533 Barbelo 27-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Any Explanation? 432 eyeofhorus33 28-Aug-17 12:39
Re: Any Explanation? 407 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Any Explanation? 476 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 23:14
Re: Any Explanation? 371 eyeofhorus33 28-Aug-17 12:35
Re: Any Explanation? 412 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 22:18
Re: Huge stones by molding 536 michael seabrook 23-Aug-17 21:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 drrayeye 28-Aug-17 17:11
Re: Huge stones by molding 452 Open mind 26-Aug-17 18:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 414 michael seabrook 27-Aug-17 09:35
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 Susan Doris 27-Aug-17 10:33
Re: Huge stones by molding 414 Thunderbird 27-Aug-17 16:18
Re: Huge stones by molding 396 Origyptian 28-Aug-17 21:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 386 Thanos5150 28-Aug-17 21:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 371 Origyptian 28-Aug-17 22:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Thanos5150 28-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Huge stones by molding 373 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 01:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 380 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 03:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 13:32
Re: Huge stones by molding 313 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 15:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 295 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 16:01
Re: Huge stones by molding 330 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 17:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 379 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 17:55
Re: Huge stones by molding 351 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 19:06
Re: Huge stones by molding 460 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 05:48
Re: Hawass and percentages 303 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 18:43
Hawass Speaks 359 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Sep-17 19:19
Re: Hawass Speaks 306 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 21:25
Re: Hawass and percentages 452 Thanos5150 01-Sep-17 19:46
Re: Hawass and percentages 341 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 21:06
Re: Hawass and percentages 523 eyeofhorus33 02-Sep-17 07:31
Re: Hawass and percentages 343 Jon Ellison 02-Sep-17 09:11
Re: Hawass and percentages 441 eyeofhorus33 03-Sep-17 08:16
Re: Huge stones by molding 359 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 11:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 311 drrayeye 29-Aug-17 11:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 354 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 12:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 331 drrayeye 29-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 354 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 15:54
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 422 Thunderbird 30-Aug-17 06:54
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 313 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 09:47
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 347 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 02:05
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 324 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 11:07
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz .. TPTB and free energy ... 304 SallyA 31-Aug-17 19:43
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz .. TPTB and free energy ... 304 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 20:38
Re: Huge stones by molding 432 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 17:22
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 17:33
Re: Huge stones by molding 391 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 17:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 406 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 17:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 318 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 18:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 441 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 18:37
Re: Huge stones by molding 344 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 314 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 19:11
and maybe along the way... 320 Racho 30-Aug-17 18:20
Re: Huge stones by molding 342 Harte 31-Aug-17 00:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 292 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 08:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 317 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 13:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 277 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 13:50
Re: Huge stones by molding 303 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 14:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 332 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 16:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 294 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 320 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Huge stones by molding 285 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 19:18
Re: Magnetic variation in Stone /Puma Punku ping for Racho 278 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 19:31
Re: Huge stones by molding 409 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 16:43
Re: Huge stones by molding 306 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 17:47
Re: Huge stones by molding 361 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 18:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 315 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 19:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 399 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 21:06
Re: Huge stones by molding 281 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 21:42
Re: Huge stones by molding 375 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 22:22
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 23:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 422 Archae Solenhofen 02-Sep-17 02:12
Re: Huge stones by molding 349 Jon Ellison 02-Sep-17 09:45
Re: Archae ....just Admit it....the Ancients did Geopolymer. 283 Thunderbird 02-Sep-17 00:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 299 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 258 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Huge stones by molding 301 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 320 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:31
Re: Huge stones by molding 410 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 21:28
Re: Huge stones by molding 312 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 22:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 22:51
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Open mind 29-Aug-17 16:59
Re: Huge stones by molding 326 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 17:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Open mind 29-Aug-17 19:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 230 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 19:54
Re: Huge stones by molding 331 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 332 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Huge stones by molding 315 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:09
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 21:30
Re: Huge stones by molding 338 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 295 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:50
Re: Huge stones by molding 324 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 298 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 282 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:26
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Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 326 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 347 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 02:47
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 359 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 09:14
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 258 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 13:50
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...uplift & metal I items 295 SallyA 31-Aug-17 16:05
Death valley stone... 286 Racho 31-Aug-17 16:17
Re: Death valley stone... 297 SallyA 31-Aug-17 19:28
Re: Message of the Pulsars 404 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Message of the Pulsars 272 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:51
Re: Is there another way? 325 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 21:09
Re: Is there another way? 280 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 22:20
Re: Is there another way? oops O.T. 279 SallyA 01-Sep-17 00:50
Re: Message of the Pulsars 291 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:45
Re: Pulsars .. the Sun, the Age ... frequency & plasma 327 SallyA 01-Sep-17 00:04
Re: Pacific/North America 324 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 02:01
Re: Pacific/North America 285 Audrey 02-Sep-17 04:20
106 doesn't seem high or out of ordinary... 266 Racho 02-Sep-17 07:07
Re: Pacific/North America 483 Thunderbird 27-Oct-17 16:02
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 300 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 01:59
Assuming elephants... ;) 306 Racho 30-Aug-17 05:23
Re: Huge stones by molding 389 Thanos5150 30-Aug-17 02:42
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 SallyA 30-Aug-17 20:25
Re: Huge stones by molding 406 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 14:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 346 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Huge stones by molding 284 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 15:00
Love vids like this 296 Racho 31-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Love vids like this 304 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:21
Re: Love vids like this 291 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:32
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Re: ? 529 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 18:11
Re: ? 327 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:52
What about hillsides? 355 Racho 02-Sep-17 01:47
Re: What about hillsides? ..Nazca, Ankor Watt, => geodedic lines 463 SallyA 01-Nov-17 13:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 370 Open mind 29-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 386 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 01:37
Re: Huge stones by molding 413 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 10:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 356 Open mind 30-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 425 Racho 30-Aug-17 06:16
Re: Huge stones by molding 363 Open mind 30-Aug-17 19:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 339 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 19:43
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Re: Huge stones by molding 323 Open mind 30-Aug-17 22:15
Re: Huge stones by molding 308 Open mind 30-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Huge stones by molding 293 Open mind 31-Aug-17 10:56
Re: Huge stones by molding 385 Wiracocha 31-Aug-17 12:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 328 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 13:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 309 Open mind 31-Aug-17 16:46
Re: Huge stones by molding 301 Open mind 31-Aug-17 22:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 280 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 23:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 263 Open mind 01-Sep-17 14:26
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Re: Huge stones by molding 331 Open mind 01-Sep-17 16:53
Re: Huge stones by molding 308 Open mind 02-Sep-17 00:11
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