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Racho Wrote:
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> Are you trying to indicate that you are without
> bias ;)

But it's not "bias" that makes me discount the injection port idea, it's the facts. This is where my bias lies.

> I have no idea as to the who or how these
> were built and, despite what you've written, I
> haven't come to any conclusions other than there
> was a lost worldwide civilization which went off
> the rails.

Fair enough. I don't know who or how some of these things were built as well and the idea of civilizations travelling around the globe spreading influence seems more than apparent. But what does debunking port injection molding of stone have to do with any of this? This is another problem here, and society in general, is that there is no nuance in our understanding. It always has to be one or the other. People have been polarized into teams, for example alt and mainstream, either of their own volition or being categorized by others, and to take a stance against one aspect of an ideology is taken to mean it is against the whole which is simply ignorant and often little more than an opaque argumentative tool.

> The boss's mean something - again I
> have no idea as to what - and they are found all
> over the world.

But they don't mean port injection molding which is ok. All evidence points to them being used for lifting the blocks yet because it is mundane compared to otherwise something that seems so incredible it is discounted by the fringe. In many instances, particularly in Greek and Roman architecture, also found are various mortises and Lewis holes that were undoubtedly also for lifting.
Roman Lewis lift:





> We have ant people & incredible
> structures like the Pyramids/Baalbek and to my way
> of thinking, they shouldn't be there given the
> society which existed at the time I'm told that
> they were built.

Certainly makes one wonder.

> I have watched vids from the other side and the
> explanations they provide don't have a lot of
> rubber on the road.

This is the problem-"the other side". We should all be on the same side. The point of seeking information that does not confirm one's bias is to get as much of a total perspective as possible to formulate an opinion not necessarily that one side is always right and the other wrong.

> I'm not even sure I know what your conclusion is
> or if you've reached one. You in the chisel &
> lever camp?

As I said to Sally: "Look, I think it goes without saying there is more at work here than hammers and chisels...".
Speaking of nuance, it should be understood by everyone by now, whoever or whenever one wishes these builders to be, despite whatever mysterious technology one can imagine they used, that it is a fact they also used mundane tools like hammers and chisels, pickaxes, saws, lathes, levers, drills, cranes, ect, ect right along side them. Many a conversation has been had, for example, about ancient quarrying and despite the fact we do it exactly the same way using the same exact tools which all have the same tool marks ect, most just refuse to accept it. Cue backfire effect. It just has to be something more amazing like lasers or port injection molding and whatnot despite the fact we have pictures of people doing exactly the same thing using the same exact tools depicted by ancient the tool marks. A massive block at Baalbek:

Chisel/axe marks (or the like) and lifting holes? Nope. Not amazing enough. Couldn't be. Had to be some kind of industrial machine or some kind of hand held laser cutter or whatnot. While I am the first to acknowledge there are some things not yet explained, maybe they never will, but I also acknowledge the actual evidence which also says they used hammers and chisels and cranes et al and good old fashioned blood sweat and tears right along side whatever as yet unknown technology they may have had. To accept the mundane does not refute the mysterious and if anything makes it more so.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 31-Aug-17 19:55 by Thanos5150.

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Huge stones by molding 2641 foleox 21-Aug-17 19:38
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 547 SallyA 22-Aug-17 23:03
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 504 Origyptian 25-Aug-17 16:49
Re: Huge stones by molding .... indeed, the chemical is produced in quantity by plants! 591 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 19:10
Any Explanation? 529 Barbelo 27-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Any Explanation? 535 eyeofhorus33 27-Aug-17 21:34
Re: Any Explanation? 533 Barbelo 27-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Any Explanation? 432 eyeofhorus33 28-Aug-17 12:39
Re: Any Explanation? 407 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Any Explanation? 476 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 23:14
Re: Any Explanation? 371 eyeofhorus33 28-Aug-17 12:35
Re: Any Explanation? 412 Thanos5150 27-Aug-17 22:18
Re: Huge stones by molding 536 michael seabrook 23-Aug-17 21:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 drrayeye 28-Aug-17 17:11
Re: Huge stones by molding 452 Open mind 26-Aug-17 18:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 414 michael seabrook 27-Aug-17 09:35
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 Susan Doris 27-Aug-17 10:33
Re: Huge stones by molding 414 Thunderbird 27-Aug-17 16:18
Re: Huge stones by molding 396 Origyptian 28-Aug-17 21:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 386 Thanos5150 28-Aug-17 21:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 371 Origyptian 28-Aug-17 22:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Thanos5150 28-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Huge stones by molding 373 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 01:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 381 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 03:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 13:32
Re: Huge stones by molding 313 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 15:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 295 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 16:01
Re: Huge stones by molding 330 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 17:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 379 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 17:55
Re: Huge stones by molding 351 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 19:06
Re: Huge stones by molding 460 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 05:48
Re: Hawass and percentages 303 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 18:43
Hawass Speaks 359 Dr. Troglodyte 01-Sep-17 19:19
Re: Hawass Speaks 306 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 21:25
Re: Hawass and percentages 452 Thanos5150 01-Sep-17 19:46
Re: Hawass and percentages 341 M. J. Thomas 01-Sep-17 21:06
Re: Hawass and percentages 523 eyeofhorus33 02-Sep-17 07:31
Re: Hawass and percentages 343 Jon Ellison 02-Sep-17 09:11
Re: Hawass and percentages 441 eyeofhorus33 03-Sep-17 08:16
Re: Huge stones by molding 359 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 11:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 311 drrayeye 29-Aug-17 11:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 354 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 12:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 331 drrayeye 29-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 354 Thanos5150 29-Aug-17 15:54
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 422 Thunderbird 30-Aug-17 06:54
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 313 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 09:47
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 347 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 02:05
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz 324 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 11:07
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz .. TPTB and free energy ... 304 SallyA 31-Aug-17 19:43
Re: Plop Plop. ....fizz,fizz .. TPTB and free energy ... 304 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 20:38
Re: Huge stones by molding 432 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Huge stones by molding 357 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 17:22
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 17:33
Re: Huge stones by molding 391 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 17:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 406 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 17:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 318 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 18:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 441 Archae Solenhofen 30-Aug-17 18:37
Re: Huge stones by molding 344 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 314 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 19:11
and maybe along the way... 320 Racho 30-Aug-17 18:20
Re: Huge stones by molding 342 Harte 31-Aug-17 00:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 292 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 08:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 317 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 13:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 277 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 13:50
Re: Huge stones by molding 303 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 14:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 332 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 16:02
Re: Huge stones by molding 294 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 320 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Huge stones by molding 285 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 19:18
Re: Magnetic variation in Stone /Puma Punku ping for Racho 278 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 19:31
Re: Huge stones by molding 409 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 16:43
Re: Huge stones by molding 306 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 17:47
Re: Huge stones by molding 361 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 18:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 315 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 19:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 399 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 21:06
Re: Huge stones by molding 281 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 21:42
Re: Huge stones by molding 376 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 22:22
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 23:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 422 Archae Solenhofen 02-Sep-17 02:12
Re: Huge stones by molding 349 Jon Ellison 02-Sep-17 09:45
Re: Archae ....just Admit it....the Ancients did Geopolymer. 283 Thunderbird 02-Sep-17 00:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 299 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:13
Re: Huge stones by molding 258 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Huge stones by molding 301 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 320 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:31
Re: Huge stones by molding 410 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 21:28
Re: Huge stones by molding 312 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 22:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Archae Solenhofen 01-Sep-17 22:51
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Open mind 29-Aug-17 16:59
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 17:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 327 Open mind 29-Aug-17 19:27
Re: Huge stones by molding 230 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 19:54
Re: Huge stones by molding 331 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Huge stones by molding 332 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Huge stones by molding 315 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:09
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 21:30
Re: Huge stones by molding 338 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:40
Re: Huge stones by molding 295 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:50
Re: Huge stones by molding 324 Origyptian 29-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 298 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Huge stones by molding 282 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 21:26
Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 340 Racho 29-Aug-17 22:58
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 326 Jon Ellison 29-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 347 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 02:47
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 359 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 09:14
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 258 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 13:50
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...uplift & metal I items 295 SallyA 31-Aug-17 16:05
Death valley stone... 286 Racho 31-Aug-17 16:17
Re: Death valley stone... 297 SallyA 31-Aug-17 19:28
Re: Message of the Pulsars 404 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Message of the Pulsars 272 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:51
Re: Is there another way? 325 Thunderbird 31-Aug-17 21:09
Re: Is there another way? 281 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 22:20
Re: Is there another way? oops O.T. 279 SallyA 01-Sep-17 00:50
Re: Message of the Pulsars 291 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:45
Re: Pulsars .. the Sun, the Age ... frequency & plasma 327 SallyA 01-Sep-17 00:04
Re: Pacific/North America 324 Thunderbird 01-Sep-17 02:01
Re: Pacific/North America 285 Audrey 02-Sep-17 04:20
106 doesn't seem high or out of ordinary... 266 Racho 02-Sep-17 07:07
Re: Pacific/North America 483 Thunderbird 27-Oct-17 16:02
Re: Bags/ropes/rollers...hmmm 300 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 01:59
Assuming elephants... ;) 306 Racho 30-Aug-17 05:23
Re: Huge stones by molding 389 Thanos5150 30-Aug-17 02:42
Re: Huge stones by molding 369 SallyA 30-Aug-17 20:25
Re: Huge stones by molding 406 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 14:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 346 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Huge stones by molding 284 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 15:00
Love vids like this 296 Racho 31-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Love vids like this 304 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 16:21
Re: Love vids like this 291 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 16:32
? 299 Racho 31-Aug-17 16:52
Re: ? 529 Thanos5150 31-Aug-17 18:11
Re: ? 327 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 21:52
What about hillsides? 355 Racho 02-Sep-17 01:47
Re: What about hillsides? ..Nazca, Ankor Watt, => geodedic lines 463 SallyA 01-Nov-17 13:08
Re: Huge stones by molding 370 Open mind 29-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Huge stones by molding 386 Origyptian 30-Aug-17 01:37
Re: Huge stones by molding 413 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 10:10
Re: Huge stones by molding 356 Open mind 30-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Huge stones by molding 425 Racho 30-Aug-17 06:16
Re: Huge stones by molding 363 Open mind 30-Aug-17 19:29
Re: Huge stones by molding 340 Jon Ellison 30-Aug-17 19:43
Re: Huge stones by molding 373 Wiracocha 30-Aug-17 22:19
Re: Huge stones by molding 323 Open mind 30-Aug-17 22:15
Re: Huge stones by molding 308 Open mind 30-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Huge stones by molding 293 Open mind 31-Aug-17 10:56
Re: Huge stones by molding 385 Wiracocha 31-Aug-17 12:36
Re: Huge stones by molding 328 Jon Ellison 31-Aug-17 13:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 309 Open mind 31-Aug-17 16:46
Re: Huge stones by molding 301 Open mind 31-Aug-17 22:48
Re: Huge stones by molding 280 Origyptian 31-Aug-17 23:34
Re: Huge stones by molding 263 Open mind 01-Sep-17 14:26
Re: Huge stones by molding 302 Jon Ellison 01-Sep-17 15:01
Re: Huge stones by molding 331 Open mind 01-Sep-17 16:53
Re: Huge stones by molding 308 Open mind 02-Sep-17 00:11
Re: Huge stones by molding 402 Open mind 01-Nov-17 02:21


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