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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 651 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 617 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 526 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 532 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 621 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 525 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 439 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 645 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 565 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 618 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 548 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 476 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 429 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 563 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 572 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 494 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 431 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 436 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 408 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 469 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 394 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 496 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 483 gulsbo 15-Aug-17 16:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 485 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 428 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 488 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 442 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 434 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 393 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 421 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 409 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 406 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 391 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 437 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 431 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 388 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 464 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 458 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 409 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 393 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 476 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 468 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 450 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 463 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 456 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 451 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 747 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 557 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 464 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 257 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 528 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 469 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 460 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 463 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 493 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 435 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 442 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 395 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 419 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 439 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 539 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 404 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 384 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 392 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 445 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 410 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 390 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 463 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 379 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 428 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
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Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 493 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:44
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 496 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 434 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 432 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 442 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 471 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 20:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 446 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 319 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 405 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 431 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 386 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 438 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 04:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 405 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 467 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 399 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 500 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 446 cladking 17-Aug-17 18:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 506 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 440 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 436 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 396 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 388 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 417 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 372 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 389 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 447 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 23:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 405 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 368 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 387 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 429 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 341 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 315 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 350 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 353 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:15
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 390 Audrey 23-Aug-17 02:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 364 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 477 Jon Ellison 23-Aug-17 08:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 399 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 548 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 475 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 00:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 453 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 422 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 17:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 433 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 497 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 433 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 384 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 489 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 379 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 392 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 403 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 384 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 397 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 445 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 363 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 317 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 419 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 376 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 434 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 408 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 425 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 403 Jon Ellison 21-Aug-17 09:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 391 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 05:21
Re: KC Watertight flooring 391 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
Re: KC Watertight flooring 339 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:00
Re: KC Watertight flooring 357 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 454 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 344 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 389 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 481 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 329 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:15


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