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Hanslune asked Cladking (Oct. 15, 2017 at 07:13, repeated Oct. 16, 2017 at 05:06, 15:11 & 21:33) to provide linguistic evidence for his assertion that all written languages attested roughly at the same time as the PT were merely "dialects" of a single Ancient Language. As of the time of this post he has failed to do so, but instead has simply stated his often repeated canard about how moderns think "stinky footed bumpkins" spoke "gobbledty gook".

Cladking has maintained across many numerous boards that all people on earth spoke this Ancient Language before roughly 2000 BCE, although he has hedged this recently, referencing dates around 3500, 3200, 2750 or 2500 BCE as the starting point for its decline (would this not "void" the PT as Ancient Language?). On the matter of another attested written language contemporary with OK Egyptian, namely Sumerian, a few Cladking quotes are germaine:

"I have read all the Sumerian writing I can find that positively pre-dates 2000 BC and it is not necessarily written in modern language. All of it can be described as being superstitious as it is translated. " (09-08-13: [www.scienceforums.net])

"In many ways it [ie, Ancient Language] was far far simpler than modern languages. It was so simple that a Sumerian could quickly come to understand an Egyptian because everything was the same except a few pronunciations. The language was rooted in science by grammar and nature. For all practical purposes it was science itself." (05-21-15: [boards.straightdope.com])

"Just like Egyptian, Sumerian is not understood. If it were understood we'd see it means something much different but it's the same sort of formatting and means of expressing meaning as Egyptian and everything written in Ancient Language." (10-08-17: [historum.com])

I have no background in the Egyptian language, or Egyptology, but I do have background in Assyriology, and can read and translate Sumerian and Akkadian cuneiform. As such, I provide here an example of the Sumerian language, from roughly the same time as the PT.

This example comes from the beginning of multicolumned inscriptions of Enmetena ruler of Lagash (ca. 2400 BCE), found in two duplicates (clay cone and clay pot/cylinder), recounting events in the long-standing border conflict between the states of Lagash and Umma. This conflict lasted from as early as ca. 2600 BCE until the conquest of both states by Sargon of Akkad ca. 2325 BCE. This is a historical recounting that covered many generations, albeit exclusively from the perspective of Lagash:

Column 1
1. den-lil₂
Enlil
2. lugal kur-kur-ra
king of all lands
3. ab-ba diŋir-diŋir-re₂-ne-ke₄
father of all gods
4. inim gi-na-ni-ta
at his firm word
5. dnin-ŋir₂-su
for Ningirsu
6. dšara₂-bi
and Shara
7. ki e-ne-sur
a place pressed out.
8. me-silim
Mesalim
9. lugal kiški-ke₄
king of Kish
10. inim dištaran-na-ta
at the word of Ishtaran
11. eš₂-gana₂ be₂-ra
the field-rope struck out
12. ki-ba na bi₂-ru₂
(and) a stone at that place he set up.
13. UŠ
USH
14. ensi₂
the ruler
15. GIŠ.KUŠU₂ki-ke₄
of Umma
16. nam-inim-ma diri-diri-še₃
wording very superfluously
17. e-ak
made,
18. na-ru₂-a-bi
that stele
19. i₃-bur₉
he ripped out,
20. eden lagaški-še₃
(and) into the plain of Lagash
21. i₃-kur9
he entered.
22. dnin-ŋir₂-su
Ningirsu
23. ur-saŋ den-lil₂-la₂-ke₄
hero of Enlil,
24. inim si-sa₂-ni-ta
at his straightforeward word,
25. GIŠ.KUŠU₂ki-da
with Umma
26. dam-ha-ra
battle
27. e-da-ak
made with,
28. inim den-lil₂-la₂-ta
(and) at the word of Enlil
29. sa-šuš-gal bi₂-šuš
the great overwhelming-net he threw out.
30. SAHAR.DU₆.TAK₄-bi
Its left behind dirt mounds
31. eden-na ki ba-ni-us₂-us₂
on the plain were grounded there.

"Enlil, king of all lands (and) father of all gods, by his firm order delineated a border for (the gods) Ningirsu and Shara. Mesalim, king of Kish, by the firm command of (the god ) Ishtaran, made a survey, (and) set up a (boundary-)stone. USH, the ruler of Umma, took the oath frivolously. He ripped out the (boundary-)stele (and) marched into the territory of Lagash. Ningirsu, warrior of Enlil, at his (ie, Enlil's) just command, made war with Umma (and), at the command of Enlil, overwhelmed (them) with the great battle-net. Tumuli (with enemy dead) were then heaped up on the plain." (The inscription continues with 5 more columns.)

One can observe some fundamental differences between OK Egyptian and Early Dynastic Sumerian. Whereas OK Egyptian had VSO syntax, Sumerian had SOV syntax. There was no grammatical gender in Sumerian, but rather varying degrees of animacy. Typologically, it was an ergative language, in which (among other aspects) the object of a transitive verb and the subject of an intransitive verb are marked the same way, whereas in a nominative-accusative languge (like Semitic or Indo-European), these are marked differently. Another difference is the mixed use of logograms (word signs) and syllabic signs to convey the grammar (similar to modern Japanese).

The methodology employed in the above transliteration is standard Assyriological practice for rendering Sumerian. The words, and the cuneiform signs with which they were written, are well understood, although the reading of a few in this passage is obscure. The reading of the name of the ruler of Umma is unknown, so the basic reading for the sign is given in capitals (UŠ). Similarly, the reading of his city, known as Umma in later texts, may have been different at this time (possibly Gišša). Lastly, the reading of left behind dirt mounds is unknown. The signs used are SAHAR "dirt" + DU₆ "hill (tell)" + TAK₄ "leave", but these may or may not have indicated the pronunciation of the phrase.

The context of casting a battle-net which destroys the enemy, after which dead enemy soldiers are buried in tumuli, can be found in scenes carved in the so-called Stele of Vultures, which dates to the time of Eanatum, predecessor of Enmetena from about 2 generations earlier.

I have given this Sumerian passage as an example since little contextual evidence from literate peoples other than OK Egyptians has generally been offered, so as to demonstrate the unlikelihood of a common linguistic identity. I remain unconvinced that OK Egyptian and Early Dynastic Sumerian could have been merely "dialects" of only one Ancient Language, "the same except [for] a few pronunciations", given distinct scripts, and especially differences in grammar and syntax.

Apologies for issues with posting.
Atugablish

Bibliography:
Douglas Frayne, Presargonic Period (2700-2350 BC). Royal Inscriptions of Mesopotamia. Early Periods, 1. Toronto, University Press of Toronto, 2007, pp. 194-199 (1.9.5.1), with further bibliography.

An online translation of the entire inscription can be found at: [sumerianshakespeare.com]

Images of Enmetena inscriptions:
[cdli.ucla.edu] (photo of AO 03004 [Louvre])
[cdli.ucla.edu] (photo of NBC 02501 [Yale])
The transliteration given above is taken from left-most column.

Stele of Vultures scenes:
[www.louvre.fr]
See images 4 (Ningirsu holding net) & 5 (burial of dead enemy soldiers in tumulus [left of image; right shows offering])



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 25-Nov-17 22:38 by atugablish.

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Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 738 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 03:00
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Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 739 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 15:12
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Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 562 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 15:58
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 666 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 14:50
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 647 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:54
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 827 R Avry Wilson 20-Apr-17 05:33
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 782 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 14:39
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 864 cladking 20-Apr-17 15:56
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 581 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 16:11
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 595 cladking 20-Apr-17 17:36
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 628 Warwick 23-Apr-17 19:26
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 638 cladking 23-Apr-17 20:37
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 623 cladking 20-Apr-17 15:23
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 835 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 15:49
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 556 cladking 20-Apr-17 16:03
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 635 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 16:16
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Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 678 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 16:28
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 730 R Avry Wilson 20-Apr-17 17:11
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 709 cladking 20-Apr-17 18:00
Re: The Problem With Sam Petry's Pyramid Texts 723 cladking 20-Apr-17 19:07
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Rubble Texts 565 cladking 15-Oct-17 15:06
Re: Rubble Texts 612 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 15:52
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Re: Rubble Texts 492 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 14:52
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Re: Rubble Texts 595 Corpuscles 17-Oct-17 23:47
Re: Rubble Texts 458 cladking 17-Oct-17 19:43
Re: Rubble Texts 485 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 22:38
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Re: Rubble Texts 779 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:20
Re: Rubble Texts 574 Thanos5150 18-Oct-17 03:05
Re: Rubble Texts 463 Thanos5150 18-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Rubble Texts 439 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:10
Re: Rubble Texts 505 Thanos5150 19-Oct-17 02:05
Re: Rubble Texts 436 cladking 18-Oct-17 18:14
Pyramid Texts Not Funerary 491 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 21:49
Re: Pyramid Texts Not Funerary 490 cladking 18-Oct-17 22:16
Re: Rubble Texts 527 cladking 16-Oct-17 17:41
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Re: Rubble Texts 470 cladking 16-Oct-17 22:10
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Re: Rubble Texts 547 cladking 16-Oct-17 23:50
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Re: Rubble Texts 669 cladking 17-Oct-17 01:30
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Re: Rubble Texts 490 Corpuscles 18-Oct-17 00:15
Re: Rubble Texts 445 cladking 18-Oct-17 00:32
But I'm Fully Clad. 449 cladking 18-Oct-17 00:19
More Oxygen 519 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 01:44
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Re: More Oxygen 542 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 03:20
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Re: Rubble Texts 586 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 00:38
Re: Rubble Texts 440 cladking 18-Oct-17 00:56
Re: Rubble Texts 486 Corpuscles 18-Oct-17 05:56
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Re: Rubble Texts 535 cladking 18-Oct-17 20:56
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Re: Rubble Texts 525 Corpuscles 18-Oct-17 20:02
Re: Rubble Texts 538 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 20:29
Re: Rubble Texts 510 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 20:54
Re: Rubble Texts 466 cladking 18-Oct-17 21:15
Corpse Drippings 487 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:27
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Re: Corpse Drippings 477 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 22:12
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No Corpse Drippings 496 Barbelo 20-Oct-17 00:27
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Re: No Corpse Drippings 506 Barbelo 20-Oct-17 03:20
Corpse Drippings 462 cladking 20-Oct-17 15:13
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Re: Corpse Drippings 457 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 20:22
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Re: Corpse Drippings 430 sfbey 19-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Corpse Drippings 431 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 22:58
Re: Corpse Drippings 417 sfbey 19-Oct-17 23:06
Re: Corpse Drippings 468 Thanos5150 20-Oct-17 02:37
Re: Corpse Drippings 457 sfbey 20-Oct-17 03:27
Re: Corpse Drippings 549 Thanos5150 20-Oct-17 05:15
Re: Corpse Drippings 449 cladking 20-Oct-17 15:04
Re: Corpse Drippings 463 Thanos5150 20-Oct-17 17:11
Re: Corpse Drippings 519 cladking 20-Oct-17 17:43
Re: Corpse Drippings 528 Origyptian 20-Oct-17 05:36
Re: Corpse Drippings 463 Warwick 06-Nov-17 17:08
Re: Corpse Drippings 403 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 20:22
Re: Corpse Drippings 425 Warwick 07-Nov-17 07:06
Re: Corpse Drippings 458 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 10:25
Re: Corpse Drippings 569 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 10:51
Re: Corpse Drippings 456 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 12:23
Re: Corpse Drippings 519 cladking 07-Nov-17 15:15
an untimely responce 384 Warwick 14-Nov-17 20:06
Re: untimely response 457 Origyptian 14-Nov-17 21:14
Re: an untimely responce 404 cladking 14-Nov-17 21:22
Re: an untimely responce 432 Origyptian 14-Nov-17 21:34
Re: an untimely responce 381 cladking 14-Nov-17 22:33
Re: an untimely responce 444 Origyptian 14-Nov-17 22:47
Re: an untimely responce 473 Warwick 15-Nov-17 02:38
Re: an untimely responce 369 cladking 15-Nov-17 03:00
Re: an untimely responce 403 Audrey 15-Nov-17 04:16
Re: an untimely responce 425 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 03:51
Re: an untimely responce 432 Audrey 15-Nov-17 04:14
Re: an untimely responce 412 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 04:44
Re: an untimely responce 370 Audrey 15-Nov-17 05:28
Re: an untimely responce 567 cladking 15-Nov-17 14:13
Re: an untimely responce 349 Origyptian 15-Nov-17 17:25
Re: an untimely responce 461 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 18:57
Re: an untimely responce 421 cladking 15-Nov-17 19:10
Re: an untimely responce 327 Origyptian 15-Nov-17 21:34
Re: an untimely responce 313 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 21:56
Re: an untimely responce 421 Origyptian 15-Nov-17 22:34
Re: an untimely responce 387 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 22:41
Re: an untimely responce 397 Origyptian 15-Nov-17 22:53
Re: an untimely responce 339 Corpuscles 15-Nov-17 23:23
Re: an untimely responce 315 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 02:45
Re: an untimely responce 514 Origyptian 15-Nov-17 13:44
Re: an untimely responce 472 Warwick 18-Nov-17 19:21
Re: an untimely responce 495 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:21
Re: an untimely responce 409 Thunderbird 15-Nov-17 02:50
Re: an untimely responce 383 cladking 15-Nov-17 03:03
Re: an untimely responce 323 Thunderbird 15-Nov-17 17:58
Re: an untimely responce 366 cladking 15-Nov-17 18:47
Re: an untimely responce 357 cladking 15-Nov-17 03:19
What did they know and when did they know it? 387 cladking 15-Nov-17 03:31
More Corpse Drippings. 529 cladking 21-Oct-17 02:08
No More Corpse Drippings. 499 cladking 22-Oct-17 14:04
Would Still Look Like Roy G Biv. 566 cladking 22-Oct-17 20:01
Re: Rubble Texts 524 Corpuscles 18-Oct-17 21:06
Re: Rubble Texts 432 cladking 18-Oct-17 21:27
Re: Rubble Texts 500 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 21:46
Re: Rubble Texts 381 Corpuscles 18-Oct-17 22:19
Re: Rubble Texts 624 R Avry Wilson 18-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Rubble Texts 494 cladking 18-Oct-17 23:50
Re: Rubble Texts 464 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 13:55
Re: Rubble Texts 475 cladking 19-Oct-17 14:15
Re: Rubble Texts 610 Corpuscles 19-Oct-17 00:08
Re: Rubble Texts 415 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 14:14
Re: Rubble Texts 398 cladking 19-Oct-17 14:21
Re: Rubble Texts 465 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 15:05
Re: Rubble Texts 431 Jon Ellison 19-Oct-17 00:54
Re: Rubble Texts 469 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 13:03
Re: Rubble Texts 362 cladking 19-Oct-17 14:24
Re: Rubble Texts 411 Thanos5150 19-Oct-17 15:48
Re: Rubble Texts 402 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 16:09
Re: Rubble Texts 486 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 13:14
Re: Rubble Texts 410 cladking 19-Oct-17 14:30
Re: Rubble Texts 399 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 13:22
Re: Rubble Texts 489 cladking 18-Oct-17 20:37
Re: Rubble Texts 380 Tsurugi 16-Nov-17 03:47
Re: Rubble Texts 445 Corpuscles 16-Nov-17 05:16
Re: Rubble Texts 394 cladking 16-Nov-17 14:08
Re: Rubble Texts 430 Tsurugi 18-Nov-17 03:54
More Rain On The Parade 564 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:25
Re: More Rain On The Parade 483 cladking 17-Oct-17 23:37
Re: Rubble Texts 521 Corpuscles 17-Oct-17 01:58
Re: Rubble Texts 435 sfbey 16-Oct-17 17:56
Re: Rubble Texts 447 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:37
Re: Rubble Texts 446 eyeofhorus33 18-Oct-17 19:54
Re: Rubble Texts 377 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Rubble Texts 473 eyeofhorus33 18-Oct-17 21:05
Re: Rubble Texts 454 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 21:19
Re: Rubble Texts 478 eyeofhorus33 18-Oct-17 21:29
Re: Rubble Texts 425 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 21:38
Re: Rubble Texts 498 Thanos5150 19-Oct-17 02:07
Re: Rubble Texts 462 eyeofhorus33 19-Oct-17 16:58
Re: Rubble Texts 403 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 17:16
Re: Rubble Texts 409 eyeofhorus33 19-Oct-17 17:31
It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 496 cladking 19-Oct-17 17:45
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 501 eyeofhorus33 19-Oct-17 18:28
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 458 cladking 19-Oct-17 18:55
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 398 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 19:56
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 465 eyeofhorus33 19-Oct-17 20:43
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 421 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 21:29
Re: It wasn't the PT in stone; it was modern belief. 405 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 20:23
Re: Rubble Texts 552 Origyptian 19-Oct-17 20:22
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 804 cladking 19-Apr-17 21:10
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 642 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:57
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 691 cladking 22-Apr-17 20:15
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 891 Warwick 23-Apr-17 19:13
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 589 cladking 23-Apr-17 20:44
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 686 R Avry Wilson 23-Apr-17 21:09
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 653 cladking 23-Apr-17 21:28
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 845 R Avry Wilson 23-Apr-17 20:42
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 741 cladking 23-Apr-17 21:10
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 663 R Avry Wilson 23-Apr-17 22:07
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 742 cladking 23-Apr-17 23:56
Funny Thing About the High Road... 639 cladking 24-Apr-17 00:02
The Low Road is Crowded and Smells Like Feet.... 810 cladking 24-Apr-17 00:07
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 760 Martin Stower 24-Apr-17 17:24
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 588 cladking 24-Apr-17 17:59
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 534 Warwick 24-Apr-17 18:01
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 744 cladking 24-Apr-17 18:35
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 544 Warwick 24-Apr-17 18:48
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 606 cladking 24-Apr-17 19:00
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 660 Warwick 24-Apr-17 19:17
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 545 cladking 24-Apr-17 19:44
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 573 Warwick 24-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 722 cladking 24-Apr-17 20:45
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 686 Corpuscles 24-Apr-17 21:04
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 580 cladking 12-Oct-17 18:45
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 498 Hanslune 13-Oct-17 02:47
... is that they are a translation of a translation! 616 eyeofhorus33 24-Apr-17 15:51
Re: ... is that they are a translation of a translation! 544 cladking 24-Apr-17 18:28
Re: ... is that they are a translation of a translation! 809 sfbey 24-Apr-17 18:49
Re: ... is that they are a translation of a translation! 811 Warwick 24-Apr-17 19:03
Re: ... is that they are a translation of a translation! 712 eyeofhorus33 24-Apr-17 20:57
Is It Translated or Is it Not? 636 cladking 24-Apr-17 21:27
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 543 eyeofhorus33 25-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 616 cladking 25-Apr-17 19:02
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 550 Warwick 25-Apr-17 19:15
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 591 cladking 25-Apr-17 19:20
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 591 Warwick 25-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 724 cladking 26-Apr-17 00:42
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 620 cladking 26-Apr-17 00:53
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 593 cladking 26-Apr-17 00:57
It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 503 cladking 13-Oct-17 18:26
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 537 Hanslune 14-Oct-17 05:00
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 403 cladking 14-Oct-17 14:32
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 624 eyeofhorus33 14-Oct-17 21:35
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 501 Hanslune 15-Oct-17 07:15
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 514 cladking 15-Oct-17 13:25
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 480 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 05:14
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 417 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 15:14
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 448 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 16:00
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 430 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 16:07
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 489 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 16:29
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 517 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 16:50
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 470 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 17:41
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 525 cladking 16-Oct-17 18:16
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 631 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:17
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 472 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 21:22
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 486 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:26
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 435 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 21:32
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 492 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:36
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 439 cladking 16-Oct-17 22:21
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 423 cladking 16-Oct-17 22:17
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 449 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:20
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 486 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 21:23
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 426 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 17:59
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 473 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:22
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 395 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 21:27
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 444 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:37
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 430 cladking 16-Oct-17 17:48
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 511 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:23
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 592 Hanslune 15-Oct-17 07:13
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 462 cladking 15-Oct-17 13:43
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 480 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 05:06
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 495 cladking 16-Oct-17 15:01
Avoiding questions again Cladking? Tsk tsk 743 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 15:11
Re: Avoiding questions again Cladking? Tsk tsk 489 Hanslune 16-Oct-17 21:33
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 496 atugablish 25-Nov-17 21:20
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 422 cladking 25-Nov-17 22:23
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 452 eyeofhorus33 26-Nov-17 08:45
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 344 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 13:34
Re: It's "Translated" Only if I Am Right! 475 cladking 26-Nov-17 14:30
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 722 Warwick 26-Apr-17 17:00
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 602 cladking 26-Apr-17 17:26
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 608 eyeofhorus33 25-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Is It Translated or Is it Not? 690 cladking 25-Apr-17 20:46
Re: ... is that they are a translation of a translation! 635 cladking 25-Apr-17 04:50
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 845 cladking 27-Apr-17 04:11
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 497 cladking 06-Nov-17 22:56
Re: The Problem With Mercer's Pyramid Texts 584 cladking 27-Jan-18 02:23


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