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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Time and again we are told, at every turn, the OLC
> is responsible for all igneous rock and/or large
> blocks and statues in Egypt no matter when they
> are attributed in AE chronology for the simple
> reason there is no evidence at any point in their
> history of having the tools or ability necessary
> to do so.
I don't recall anyone saying what you think you heard. The statues and stones are taken on a case by case basis. The alts aren't lumping ALL statues and stone together as you are. You're arguing with yourself.
> Meaning, there is no fundamental difference
> between this found in the OK:
>
>
> And this found in the NK:
>
>
> They either had the tools to do it or they did
> not.
Depends on the statue. The two may look the same to you, but may not to someone else.
> Thanos posts pictographic evidence of modern
> mammals depicted in the igneous rock statuary of
> the OLC including domesticated animals,
> only found in the anthropological record congruous
> with the various stages of modern human and
> mammalian development. The depiction of these
> animals, which only existed after certain times,
> some only since the modern human domestication of
> animals, ergo dates the creation of the statuary.
And all your animal statues look the same to you, but not to me. But discussing that with you is a waste of time since you can't see the details.
> Thanos also posts pictures, from the OK among
> others, of statues depicting modern human beings.
And?
> "Photographic evidence" now translates to the at
> times "loved", but now derogatory, "photo bombs".
Ori was the one to compliment you and I don't agree with him. I find your photo bombs of lumping ALL statues & animals & paintings together a generalization that the alts would not apply. You seem to be saying - the AE did all of it therefore a LC did none of it. Which couldn't be further from what the alts say.
> None of the Origyptianites can understand why
> Thanos would post such things. Amazingly Thanos
> even conjures why he would do such a thing:
Why does Thanos talk of himself in the 3rd person? Can Thanos not connect with himself?
> And asks the question:
>
Don't recall anyone saying your pics weren't human. You're arguing with yourself.
Would be easier to ask the person directly - do you think these statues are not human? You asked the question, answered it yourself, and then proceeded to get angry. If your question IS answered, you still get angry. If you don't like the answer, you get angry. Gee, Thanos gets angry no matter how the discussion goes. And you are so irresponsible, so lacking in integrity that you will always blame someone else for your anger.
> The responses to follow are:
>
> And:
>
> "Have no idea why you throw domesticated
> animals in your stew. Has nothing to do with
> OK. Everything except the owl looks typical.
> Why on earth do you think we include ALL
> statues as an LC legacy?"
>
> [Note:I did not post a picture of an owl. It is a
> hawk. The hawk of Horus found throughout 3,000yrs
> of AE history.]
>
> "But since there aren't pics to post of it,
> you and your peanut gallery will not understand
> the point."
>
> "And they [alts] will not agree with you no
> matter how many photo bombs you do. And you
> will not sway them with pics from different time
> periods."
>
> "So why should anyone give evidence outside of
> the monuments? Because YOU think so?"
>
> I think half the battle of being able to change a
> light bulb is first knowing what a light bulb is.
>
>
> The statues tell us two things:
> 1) They were created by modern humans and/or
> non-humans or another species of human that just
> so happened to look exactly like modern humans in
> every anotomical way.
>
> 2) They were made at a time when these animals
> existed, for example the domesticated cow:
>
> If this animal did not exist prior to c. 8,500BC,
> which is also confirmed archaeologically as
> domesticated cattle are not physically found prior
> to this period either, we can conclude at the
> very least this statue, among many others
> depicting this animal, was made after this time,
> therefore giving us at least "some idea" when the
> culture that made this statue existed. Therefore,
> we are left with two choices:
>
> 1) The AE did in fact have the ability to make
> such statuary regardless of whether we do not find
> the tools and materials some believe were required
> to do so, which further tells us the lack of such
> tools has nothing to do with age.
>
> 2) The OLC, being the only ones who were able to
> create such statuary, existed sometime directly
> before and after the period of c. 8,500BC.
You just had a debate with yourself.
I've not seen anyone talk about the animal statues. Here's a novel concept; ask others about the animals, let them answer for themselves.
After all of the above, you posted pics of tomb interiors.
All of the above was from your post that would lead to your attempt to make yourself appear more knowledgeable about AE art than Jon is. You eventually work yourself up into a lather and post this gem
That painting is not "ancient Chinese". It was done by Xu Yang in 1770 and is now in the Met Museum. I don't think anyone would call 1770 "ancient".
Your reliance on a blogger immediately shows your ignorance of art. But that didn't stop you from calling Jon a "dumbass" and making up your own art theories. Nor does it stop you from insulting others.
Before people are wowed by your photo bombs, they should double-check you. You had no basis for calling Jon a "dumbass", when it was you who was the dumbass. Meanwhile, you orthos are still ignorant of the development of perspective and how the AE did not use it.
Your judgmental nature, your unwillingness to accept difference in opinion and observations, are not the characteristics of one who seeks truth, but of one who wishes to dictate truth. aka a control freak.
Your attempts to make the alts look stupid will forever fail because the justice you desperately seek is self-serving and so is a false justice.
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> Time and again we are told, at every turn, the OLC
> is responsible for all igneous rock and/or large
> blocks and statues in Egypt no matter when they
> are attributed in AE chronology for the simple
> reason there is no evidence at any point in their
> history of having the tools or ability necessary
> to do so.
I don't recall anyone saying what you think you heard. The statues and stones are taken on a case by case basis. The alts aren't lumping ALL statues and stone together as you are. You're arguing with yourself.
> Meaning, there is no fundamental difference
> between this found in the OK:
>

>
> And this found in the NK:
>

>
> They either had the tools to do it or they did
> not.
Depends on the statue. The two may look the same to you, but may not to someone else.
> Thanos posts pictographic evidence of modern
> mammals depicted in the igneous rock statuary of
> the OLC including domesticated animals,
> only found in the anthropological record congruous
> with the various stages of modern human and
> mammalian development. The depiction of these
> animals, which only existed after certain times,
> some only since the modern human domestication of
> animals, ergo dates the creation of the statuary.
And all your animal statues look the same to you, but not to me. But discussing that with you is a waste of time since you can't see the details.
> Thanos also posts pictures, from the OK among
> others, of statues depicting modern human beings.
And?
> "Photographic evidence" now translates to the at
> times "loved", but now derogatory, "photo bombs".
Ori was the one to compliment you and I don't agree with him. I find your photo bombs of lumping ALL statues & animals & paintings together a generalization that the alts would not apply. You seem to be saying - the AE did all of it therefore a LC did none of it. Which couldn't be further from what the alts say.
> None of the Origyptianites can understand why
> Thanos would post such things. Amazingly Thanos
> even conjures why he would do such a thing:
Why does Thanos talk of himself in the 3rd person? Can Thanos not connect with himself?
> And asks the question:
>
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You believe they were another species of
> human, or perhaps non-human-can you explain what
> it is about their anatomy that leads you to this
> conclusion? For example, what is it about these
> two that suggest to you they are "non-human" or a
> different species of human:
>
Don't recall anyone saying your pics weren't human. You're arguing with yourself.
Would be easier to ask the person directly - do you think these statues are not human? You asked the question, answered it yourself, and then proceeded to get angry. If your question IS answered, you still get angry. If you don't like the answer, you get angry. Gee, Thanos gets angry no matter how the discussion goes. And you are so irresponsible, so lacking in integrity that you will always blame someone else for your anger.
> The responses to follow are:
>
>Quote
Thanos, with all your photo bombs,
> insultas, sarcasm, and arrogance, you still
> haven't lifted a finger to prove when any
> of that work was actually done. You may think you
> did, but you really didn't. You seem to simply
> be making huge assumptions that are entangled
> in Manetho's timeline.
> And:
>
> "Have no idea why you throw domesticated
> animals in your stew. Has nothing to do with
> OK. Everything except the owl looks typical.
> Why on earth do you think we include ALL
> statues as an LC legacy?"
>
> [Note:I did not post a picture of an owl. It is a
> hawk. The hawk of Horus found throughout 3,000yrs
> of AE history.]
>
> "But since there aren't pics to post of it,
> you and your peanut gallery will not understand
> the point."
>
> "And they [alts] will not agree with you no
> matter how many photo bombs you do. And you
> will not sway them with pics from different time
> periods."
>
> "So why should anyone give evidence outside of
> the monuments? Because YOU think so?"
>
> I think half the battle of being able to change a
> light bulb is first knowing what a light bulb is.
>
>
> The statues tell us two things:
> 1) They were created by modern humans and/or
> non-humans or another species of human that just
> so happened to look exactly like modern humans in
> every anotomical way.
>
> 2) They were made at a time when these animals
> existed, for example the domesticated cow:
>
>Quote
> A genetic study of cattle has claimed that all
> modern domesticated bovines are descended from a
> single herd of wild ox, which lived 10,500 years
> ago.
>
> A team of geneticists from the National Museum of
> Natural History in France, the University of Mainz
> in Germany, and UCL in the UK excavated the bones
> of domestic cattle on archaeological sites in
> Iran, and then compared those to modern cows. They
> looked at how differences in DNA sequences could
> have arisen under different population history
> scenarios, modeled in computer simulations.
>
> The team found that the differences that show up
> between the two populations could only have arisen
> if a relatively small number of animals —
> approximately 80 — had been domesticated from a
> now-extinct species of wild ox, known as aurochs,
> which roamed across Europe and Asia.
> If this animal did not exist prior to c. 8,500BC,
> which is also confirmed archaeologically as
> domesticated cattle are not physically found prior
> to this period either, we can conclude at the
> very least this statue, among many others
> depicting this animal, was made after this time,
> therefore giving us at least "some idea" when the
> culture that made this statue existed. Therefore,
> we are left with two choices:
>
> 1) The AE did in fact have the ability to make
> such statuary regardless of whether we do not find
> the tools and materials some believe were required
> to do so, which further tells us the lack of such
> tools has nothing to do with age.
>
> 2) The OLC, being the only ones who were able to
> create such statuary, existed sometime directly
> before and after the period of c. 8,500BC.
You just had a debate with yourself.
I've not seen anyone talk about the animal statues. Here's a novel concept; ask others about the animals, let them answer for themselves.
After all of the above, you posted pics of tomb interiors.
What things? Proof of what? All I can gather is you're trying to say there is no evidence that the AE did not build the tombs. You're sentence is convoluted, but nevertheless you follow it with this:Quote
Thanos
Its interesting that you use the lack of these things in their tombs as "proof" yet ignore if they did not exist they could never have made the very tombs in the first place which this evidence is not found.
Obviously this is your logic because you are not expressing what the alts think. Your conviction that you have nailed the logic of the alts sends you into a fit of anger, when in truth, you are a long ways from understanding what the alts are saying.Quote
By your logic then, these are once again not the work of the AE, but rather the LC.
All of the above was from your post that would lead to your attempt to make yourself appear more knowledgeable about AE art than Jon is. You eventually work yourself up into a lather and post this gem
Quote
And you are supposedly the lettered "art expert"? Isometric perspective, also known as "orthographic perspective", was a perspective technique first widely used by ancient Chinese artists. For example:
That painting is not "ancient Chinese". It was done by Xu Yang in 1770 and is now in the Met Museum. I don't think anyone would call 1770 "ancient".
Your reliance on a blogger immediately shows your ignorance of art. But that didn't stop you from calling Jon a "dumbass" and making up your own art theories. Nor does it stop you from insulting others.
Before people are wowed by your photo bombs, they should double-check you. You had no basis for calling Jon a "dumbass", when it was you who was the dumbass. Meanwhile, you orthos are still ignorant of the development of perspective and how the AE did not use it.
Your judgmental nature, your unwillingness to accept difference in opinion and observations, are not the characteristics of one who seeks truth, but of one who wishes to dictate truth. aka a control freak.
Your attempts to make the alts look stupid will forever fail because the justice you desperately seek is self-serving and so is a false justice.
He who knows all the answers has not been asked all the questions - Confucius