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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
Date: April 19, 2017 05:22PM
sfbey Wrote:
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> I don't understand your point. The finest tomb
> painting was done upon a field of raised or sunk
> relief. The play of light would have created
> contours -highlights and shadows.
> It was sophisticated according to their canon.
> Architecture and sculpture were 3D. The Heb Sed
> buildings at Djoser's complex are sculpted and
> assembled. The statues were meant to be seen in
> the round. No, the art does not follow your rules
> of what is the "most recognizable angle of view."
> Why should it?
Because Jon believes line art to be "primitive", namely due to the apparent lack of "comprehension" to portray subjects in 3 dimensions on a 2 dimensional surface, he is attempting to juxtapose this "primitiveness" against the required "sophistication" of 3 dimensional stone statuary in an attempt to "prove" they could not have been made by the same culture. Of course whatever paintings would belong to the AE because such materials would otherwise be gone given the prerequisite tens of thousands if not millions of years for all such OLC "non-durable" materials to have disappeared.
Despite the culturally seamless congruity between AE painting and statuary, is that all 2-D art of the ancient world until classical Greece is no different. Why ancient peoples choose to limit themselves to this style for so long is an interesting thought, however, equating this to some kind of "primitiveness" is unwarranted as all other aspects of these cultures clearly show they did in fact understand these principles with a high level of sophistication, but rather
choose to convey information in their art in this style
regardless, ergo not a matter of "ability", but rather sensibility.
The rub, however, lost on Jon, is that the AE also made equally complex statuary in other "non-durable" materials no different than their stone counterparts.
A few examples: 6th Dynasty copper statues of Pepi and Merenre:
5th Dynasty wood statue of Ka-Aper
Wooden statues comparable to their stone counterparts are ubiquitous throughout AE culture and though largely all destroyed, date back to at least the 2nd Dynasty.
There is also the curious fascination, dating back to at least the OK, of wooden model making:
As we can see, the use of other mediums for statuary other than stone clearly demonstrates the AE ability to understand subjects in 3 dimensions regardless of whether they choose not to express this within their 2 dimensional art.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 19-Apr-17 18:13 by Thanos5150.
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re names
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440 |
Warwick
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17-Apr-17 16:34 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
477 |
cladking
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14-Apr-17 13:43 |
                      
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|
426 |
Martin Stower
|
14-Apr-17 10:17 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
489 |
cladking
|
14-Apr-17 15:52 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
466 |
Martin Stower
|
14-Apr-17 20:57 |
                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
354 |
Warwick
|
17-Apr-17 16:39 |
                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
396 |
Warwick
|
17-Apr-17 16:23 |
                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
440 |
cladking
|
17-Apr-17 19:35 |
                  
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|
321 |
cladking
|
14-Apr-17 02:20 |
                  
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|
407 |
Origyptian
|
14-Apr-17 16:42 |
                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
398 |
cladking
|
14-Apr-17 17:33 |
                   
Philip, the time waster
|
573 |
R Avry Wilson
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15-Apr-17 00:42 |
                    
Re: Philip, the time waster
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476 |
cladking
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15-Apr-17 01:38 |
                    
Re: Philip, the time waster
|
474 |
Origyptian
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15-Apr-17 21:31 |
                 
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|
483 |
Thanos5150
|
14-Apr-17 18:22 |
                  
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
429 |
Origyptian
|
14-Apr-17 20:47 |
                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
524 |
Martin Stower
|
14-Apr-17 22:24 |
                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
394 |
Origyptian
|
14-Apr-17 22:36 |
                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
491 |
Martin Stower
|
14-Apr-17 23:00 |
                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
613 |
Thanos5150
|
15-Apr-17 01:42 |
                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
501 |
Martin Stower
|
15-Apr-17 09:47 |
                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
599 |
Thanos5150
|
15-Apr-17 17:19 |
                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
591 |
Origyptian
|
15-Apr-17 19:58 |
                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
451 |
Martin Stower
|
15-Apr-17 20:51 |
                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
710 |
Thanos5150
|
16-Apr-17 17:43 |
                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
460 |
Origyptian
|
16-Apr-17 18:26 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
429 |
eyeofhorus33
|
16-Apr-17 20:24 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
366 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 02:16 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
467 |
Martin Stower
|
16-Apr-17 22:41 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
414 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 03:12 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
488 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 01:59 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
385 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 02:19 |
                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
380 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 12:42 |
                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
408 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 13:01 |
                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
418 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 13:43 |
                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
468 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 13:47 |
                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
498 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 14:37 |
                              
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
391 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 17:40 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
441 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 18:16 |
                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
403 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 16:17 |
                              
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
452 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 16:30 |
                              
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
388 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 17:48 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
478 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 18:14 |
                                
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
388 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 18:29 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
454 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 18:58 |
                                
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
369 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 19:34 |
                                 
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
336 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 20:48 |
                                 
Ori goes to a classy restaurant!
|
481 |
Corpuscles
|
17-Apr-17 23:12 |
                                  
Re: Ori goes to a classy restaurant!
|
458 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 03:46 |
                                   
Re: Ori goes to a classy restaurant!
|
448 |
Martin Stower
|
18-Apr-17 11:07 |
                                 
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
445 |
Thanos5150
|
18-Apr-17 00:23 |
                                  
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
442 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 04:04 |
                                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
396 |
Martin Stower
|
18-Apr-17 11:23 |
                                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
472 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 13:06 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
458 |
Martin Stower
|
18-Apr-17 13:42 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
454 |
Thanos5150
|
18-Apr-17 17:30 |
                                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
421 |
Audrey
|
19-Apr-17 00:44 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
477 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 01:09 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
426 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 01:26 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
477 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 01:13 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
479 |
Audrey
|
19-Apr-17 02:07 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
437 |
Martin Stower
|
19-Apr-17 11:44 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
471 |
Warwick
|
19-Apr-17 16:56 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
466 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 00:36 |
                                          
Agrest and his sources
|
447 |
Merrell
|
20-Apr-17 12:18 |
                                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
439 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 01:01 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
474 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 02:06 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
514 |
Audrey
|
19-Apr-17 02:27 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
465 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 03:30 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
418 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 04:40 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
418 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 06:06 |
                                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
459 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 15:45 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
426 |
Corpuscles
|
19-Apr-17 10:11 |
                                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
544 |
Morten
|
19-Apr-17 11:24 |
                                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
427 |
Corpuscles
|
19-Apr-17 11:38 |
                                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
381 |
cladking
|
19-Apr-17 15:16 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
464 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 00:59 |
                                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
445 |
Hanslune
|
20-Apr-17 02:39 |
                                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
493 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 08:09 |
                                  
Roman capabilities
|
435 |
Warwick
|
18-Apr-17 15:37 |
                                   
Re: Roman capabilities
|
414 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 16:04 |
                                    
Re: Roman capabilities
|
358 |
Warwick
|
18-Apr-17 18:04 |
                                     
Re: Roman capabilities
|
381 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 18:09 |
                                      
ahhhh. an attack. how droll
|
344 |
Warwick
|
18-Apr-17 20:25 |
                                       
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll
|
369 |
Origyptian
|
18-Apr-17 21:27 |
                                        
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll
|
258 |
Warwick
|
19-Apr-17 13:49 |
                                
Stuck in a time warp
|
442 |
Audrey
|
18-Apr-17 03:35 |
                                 
Re: Stuck in a time warp
|
285 |
Martin Stower
|
18-Apr-17 10:56 |
                                  
Re: Stuck in a time warp
|
372 |
Audrey
|
19-Apr-17 01:04 |
                                   
Re: Stuck in a time warp
|
306 |
Martin Stower
|
19-Apr-17 09:49 |
                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
369 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 16:00 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
351 |
Origyptian
|
17-Apr-17 02:25 |
                         
Experiment terminated
|
277 |
Martin Stower
|
17-Apr-17 12:52 |
                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
396 |
Jon Ellison
|
16-Apr-17 21:37 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
440 |
Merrell
|
16-Apr-17 22:45 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
555 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 03:59 |
                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
426 |
Jon Ellison
|
17-Apr-17 08:07 |
                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
272 |
Thanos5150
|
17-Apr-17 15:36 |
                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
354 |
Warwick
|
17-Apr-17 22:01 |
                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
433 |
Jon Ellison
|
18-Apr-17 08:13 |
                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
240 |
Thanos5150
|
18-Apr-17 18:10 |
                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
466 |
Jon Ellison
|
19-Apr-17 00:41 |
                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
481 |
sfbey
|
19-Apr-17 14:30 |
                              
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
515 |
Jon Ellison
|
19-Apr-17 15:18 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
273 |
cladking
|
19-Apr-17 15:48 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
454 |
sfbey
|
19-Apr-17 15:57 |
                                
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
571 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 17:22 |
                                 
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
443 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 17:35 |
                                  
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
536 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 22:32 |
                                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
334 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 23:15 |
                                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
360 |
Origyptian
|
19-Apr-17 23:21 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
337 |
Warwick
|
20-Apr-17 16:57 |
                                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
355 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 17:18 |
                                       
The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
356 |
Warwick
|
20-Apr-17 17:50 |
                                        
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
369 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 18:27 |
                                         
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
279 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 19:11 |
                                          
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
305 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 19:29 |
                                           
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
384 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 22:15 |
                                            
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
389 |
Origyptian
|
21-Apr-17 04:37 |
                                             
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret
|
298 |
Martin Stower
|
21-Apr-17 08:26 |
                                              
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
362 |
Jon Ellison
|
21-Apr-17 09:20 |
                                               
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art
|
536 |
sfbey
|
21-Apr-17 14:19 |
                                               
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
280 |
Warwick
|
21-Apr-17 17:30 |
                                                
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
308 |
Origyptian
|
21-Apr-17 19:37 |
                                                 
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
449 |
Warwick
|
22-Apr-17 15:53 |
                                                  
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
323 |
Origyptian
|
23-Apr-17 02:06 |
                                                   
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear
|
239 |
Warwick
|
23-Apr-17 16:18 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
293 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 18:20 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
322 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 18:44 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
254 |
sfbey
|
20-Apr-17 19:03 |
                                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
425 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 19:16 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
249 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 19:31 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
309 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 17:52 |
                                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
311 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 18:38 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
269 |
Martin Stower
|
20-Apr-17 19:34 |
                                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
497 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 23:44 |
                                 
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
265 |
Jon Ellison
|
19-Apr-17 18:19 |
                                  
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
430 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 19:45 |
                                   
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
402 |
Jon Ellison
|
19-Apr-17 21:47 |
                                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
368 |
Thanos5150
|
19-Apr-17 22:33 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
369 |
Warwick
|
20-Apr-17 17:17 |
                                    
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
446 |
Thanos5150
|
20-Apr-17 17:57 |
                                     
Principles of Egyptian Art
|
279 |
sfbey
|
20-Apr-17 18:49 |
                                     
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
376 |
Jon Ellison
|
20-Apr-17 18:53 |
                                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
403 |
Jon Ellison
|
20-Apr-17 19:28 |
                                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
532 |
Thanos5150
|
20-Apr-17 20:24 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
338 |
Thanos5150
|
20-Apr-17 20:43 |
                                         
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
293 |
Origyptian
|
20-Apr-17 21:29 |
                                          
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
336 |
Thanos5150
|
20-Apr-17 23:55 |
                                           
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
432 |
R Avry Wilson
|
21-Apr-17 01:32 |
                                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
456 |
Audrey
|
21-Apr-17 03:02 |
                                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
346 |
Warwick
|
21-Apr-17 06:38 |
                                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
262 |
Origyptian
|
21-Apr-17 04:56 |
                                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
313 |
Corpuscles
|
21-Apr-17 06:36 |
                                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
291 |
Corpuscles
|
21-Apr-17 06:08 |
                                             
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
|
333 |
Thanos5150
|
21-Apr-17 06:44 |
                                              
The willfully blind do not see
|
334 |
Warwick
|
21-Apr-17 07:07 |
                                               
Re: The willfully blind do not see
|
297 |
Thanos5150
|
21-Apr-17 16:27 |
                                                
Re: The willfully blind do not see
|
358 |
Warwick
|
21-Apr-17 17:07 |
                                                 
Re: The willfully blind do not see
|
327 |
Thanos5150
|
21-Apr-17 18:12 |
                                                
Re: The willfully blind do not see
|
288 |
eyeofhorus33
|
21-Apr-17 21:15 |
                                                
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
429 |
Audrey
|
22-Apr-17 02:29 |
                                                 
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
437 |
Thanos5150
|
22-Apr-17 05:23 |
                                                  
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
345 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 09:13 |
                                                   
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
375 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 09:22 |
                                                    
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
316 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 10:26 |
                                                     
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
340 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 10:46 |
                                                      
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
403 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 11:42 |
                                                      
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
606 |
Origyptian
|
22-Apr-17 14:02 |
                                                       
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
310 |
cladking
|
22-Apr-17 14:45 |
                                                       
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
443 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 15:05 |
                                                        
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
404 |
Origyptian
|
22-Apr-17 15:17 |
                                                         
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
336 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 15:20 |
                                                    
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
354 |
Thanos5150
|
22-Apr-17 15:46 |
                                                     
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
287 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 16:07 |
                                                      
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
371 |
Jon Ellison
|
22-Apr-17 16:56 |
                                                      
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
336 |
Thanos5150
|
22-Apr-17 17:33 |
                                                       
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
255 |
R Avry Wilson
|
22-Apr-17 19:38 |
                                                        
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
452 |
cladking
|
22-Apr-17 19:46 |
                                                         
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
230 |
cladking
|
22-Apr-17 19:54 |
                                                          
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
270 |
Audrey
|
22-Apr-17 20:26 |
                                                           
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
271 |
cladking
|
22-Apr-17 21:17 |
                                                          
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
439 |
Audrey
|
22-Apr-17 20:36 |
                                                           
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
256 |
cladking
|
22-Apr-17 21:21 |
                                                  
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
317 |
Origyptian
|
22-Apr-17 13:51 |
                                                   
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
366 |
Thanos5150
|
22-Apr-17 16:45 |
                                                   
How this is relevant
|
350 |
Warwick
|
22-Apr-17 16:51 |
                                                    
Re: How this is relevant
|
429 |
Origyptian
|
23-Apr-17 02:09 |
                                                     
Re: How this is relevant
|
325 |
Warwick
|
23-Apr-17 15:43 |
                                                 
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn
|
336 |
Warwick
|
22-Apr-17 16:00 |
                                                 
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
395 |
Corpuscles
|
22-Apr-17 21:39 |
                                                  
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
400 |
Origyptian
|
23-Apr-17 03:39 |
                                                   
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
282 |
Corpuscles
|
23-Apr-17 07:19 |
                                                    
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
452 |
Origyptian
|
23-Apr-17 13:51 |
                                                     
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
308 |
Martin Stower
|
23-Apr-17 14:38 |
                                                      
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
328 |
Origyptian
|
23-Apr-17 15:03 |
                                                     
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
246 |
Corpuscles
|
23-Apr-17 22:14 |
                                                    
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
322 |
Thanos5150
|
23-Apr-17 15:50 |
                                                     
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
|
350 |
Origyptian
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23-Apr-17 16:18 |
                                                  
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
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Martin Stower
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23-Apr-17 12:58 |
                                                   
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
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Warwick
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23-Apr-17 16:13 |
                                                   
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman
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Corpuscles
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23-Apr-17 21:44 |
                                              
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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Corpuscles
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21-Apr-17 07:12 |
                                               
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Warwick
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21-Apr-17 17:43 |
                                            
Rabbits . . .
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Martin Stower
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21-Apr-17 10:04 |
                                             
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Merrell
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21-Apr-17 12:48 |
                                            
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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Warwick
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21-Apr-17 18:01 |
                                        
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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Jon Ellison
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20-Apr-17 20:45 |
                                         
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Audrey
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21-Apr-17 01:08 |
                                     
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Jon Ellison
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20-Apr-17 19:53 |
                               
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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Warwick
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19-Apr-17 17:43 |
                                
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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406 |
Jon Ellison
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19-Apr-17 18:40 |
                                 
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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Warwick
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20-Apr-17 17:29 |
                      
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Corpuscles
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17-Apr-17 00:04 |
                       
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Thanos5150
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17-Apr-17 02:05 |
                      
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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413 |
Martin Stower
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17-Apr-17 00:05 |
                       
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...
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369 |
Thanos5150
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17-Apr-17 03:15 |
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