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Warwick Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > Origyptian Wrote:
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> > > > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > > I can't imagine anyone arguing against two facts;
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. that the Roman were doers, who looked at
> > > > > obstacles as a source of inspiration
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. that they of all ancient people's WERE without
> > > > > peer at reverse engineering and adaption
> > > > >
> > > > > I offer no elaboration of these points at this
> > > > > time due to the fact that anyone arguing fir or
> > > > > against a Roman 'Baalbek' must already know my 2
> > > > > points...or they have no place in this discussion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > warwick
> > > >
> > > > So, if anyone doesn't 'know your 2 points', or
> > > > dares to think that the Dynastic beat the Romans
> > > > in adaption prowess, or challenges the notion that
> > > > the Romans were "without peer at reverse
> > > > engineering", then you are decreeing that
> > > > we can't participate in this discussion?!
> > >
> > > What I am telling you is exactly what so many...
> >
> > "so many"? Like maybe three of you?
> >
> > > ...have been trying so hard to tell you for quite a while
> > > is simple;
> > >
> > > you cannot state that any group is/was not
> > > capable of a given achievement if you are
> > > not well acquainted with the facts concerning that
> > > group's capabilities and achievements.
> > >
> > > I am not here to conduct history lessons.
> > >
> > > I like to assume that anyone arguing against
> > > anything knows precisely what it is they are
> > > arguing against.
> >
> > Warwick, respectfully, you've shown zero knowledge
> > of any significant engineering principle that's
> > been discussed here in the context of the ancient
> > stonework. You're the last person to dictate what
> > background people should have before they can
> > participate in these discussions. Give us a break.
> > Please!
>
> I have posted at length concerning the properties
> of stone, the working of stone, the logistics of
> handling stone, and the observable pattern of
> development in AE architecture and statuary.
>
> I have also communicated my having studied
> Mechanical Engineering in College
>
> I have also communicated that I have considerable
> field experience with Limestone in particular.
>
> You have alluded to the unknown. performed by the
> unknown, at an unknown time, with powered
> technology that you have absolutely no evidence of.
>
> As to the Romans, I have in the past posted at
> length about Roman Military engineering.
>
> I have done brick work, harvested slate, and
> experiemented with stone sculpture.
>
> I am very used to working with what most call
> Primitive tools.
>
> So...do you agree or not with my 'simple facts'
> facts ( allowing for your qualifier re proof of
> provenance for the AE statuary) or not?
>
> Warwick

Warwick, I respect your experience, but it's not obvious how slate, brickwork, and sculpting equips you to understand -- any better than the rest of us -- the daunting nature of that massive construction and the technology required to overcome the natural forces that insert a massive amount of inertia against that effort every step of the way, especially concerning the Baalbek megaliths. It's certainly not clear how your "work with" relatively small scale stone projects translates to the task of planning, quarrying, shaping, transporting, lifting, and precision fitting many millions of multi-ton blocks of limestone and granite essentially without stop over a 200 year period in 3rd mill. BC Egypt in what was arguably the most massive construction project ever carried out in the history of mankind.

I don't understand how your experience doesn't make you feel any compulsion to see direct evidence that such an immense effort was even possible at that time, let alone actually happened. It takes a lot more than being inspired by obstacles, reverse engineering, and adapting the work of others, to be able to achieve that kind of work. And let's not forget to include the huge and complex infrastructure (both roadways and waterways along with transport vehicles) that needed to be planned, designed and constructed.

Have you shared your opinion about how it could be possible for Romans to create, shape, manipulate, transport, and lift those Baalbek megaliths, or to quarry dozens of 80 ton blocks of granite in Aswan, shape them to size with precision planes and squareness, transport them back and forth to the river, load them onto a ship (not to mention build a fleet of ships that can handle such loads), ship the cargo 600 miles to Giza, lift them and precision fit them into place, etc.? How about that pair of 750 ton solid granite Colossi of Memnon?

How did 3rd mill BC Egypt do the math to create those bizarre blocks in the AP?

What does your work with stone tell you was the purpose of the RCs, Antechamber, and the Granite Plugs?

What does your experience tell you is the likelihood that those pyramids were originally designed to be tombs vs...what?

Which brings me back to your point: how can you claim that your work with bricks, slate and sculpting qualifies you to participate in these discussions any more than other professionals here with equal or greater experience in industrial level engineering, heavy equipment, and construction project planning and implementation that not only requires large scale structural engineering but also complex logistics that depend heavily on what likely was a very advanced JIT supply line scheme.

How is believing whether Romans "looked at obstacles as a source of inspiration" relevant to assessing whether they had the necessary means to properly address the natural forces and complex logistic issues in order to make and move those 1600 ton blocks at Baalbek?

How did you derive the notion that the Romans were "without peer at reverse engineering and adaption", and how is that relevant to whether any of us are qualified to participate in a discussion about whether a civilization had the means to do this or that kind of large scale stone work?

To answer your question, no, I don't agree with your "simple facts". Respectfully, I think your 2 criteria are your own speculation and are irrelevant to making an assessment of whether a civilization is able to achieve such work. I think you are cutting short the true brilliance required to accomplish that work.

You asked, and I gave my opinion as respectfully as I could.

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Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 283 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 465 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 306 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 396 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 327 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 393 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 373 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 313 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 415 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 471 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 581 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 452 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 302 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 379 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 458 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 268 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 492 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 507 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 542 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 303 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 481 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 599 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 469 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 565 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 355 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 388 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 362 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 378 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 382 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 389 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 302 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 331 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 409 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 417 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 329 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 382 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 557 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 301 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 335 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 481 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 351 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 266 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 319 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 345 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 282 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 451 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 270 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 334 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 293 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 526 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 310 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 461 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 428 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 395 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 394 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 476 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 303 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 402 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 559 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 363 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 317 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 360 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 460 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 492 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 369 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 337 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 318 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 357 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 366 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 323 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 382 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 354 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 309 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 451 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 495 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 375 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 396 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 343 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 367 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 429 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 644 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 335 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 469 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 430 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 365 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 385 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 313 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 392 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 359 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 276 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 478 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 268 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 292 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 299 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 459 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 282 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 345 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 396 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 380 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 455 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 349 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 358 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 428 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 432 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 307 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 478 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 336 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 351 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 278 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 349 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 373 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 317 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 295 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 386 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 395 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 318 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 442 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 450 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 335 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 446 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 464 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 269 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 391 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 445 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 457 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 491 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05