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> Of course, I've known about Pregnant Woman since I
> was a child.
And (presumably) like many others
> here, I accepted the traditional narrative that it
> was created during the Roman Empire.

Oh, dear. So its not enough that you knew about Baalbek before you got here a few years ago, but unlike 99% of the rest of the population in the late 1950's early 1960's, let alone today, not only "of course" did you even know Baalbek existed as a child, but also, "of course", knew of the even more obscure large block sitting in the quarry known as the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman"? Well, I knew about it when I was still in the womb doctor.

I am curious what black and white TV documentary you may have seen such things between episodes of Howdy Doody and the Addams Family? Was it the 1912 National Geographic article that you looked at the pictures of before you got to the African boobies in the back while waiting in the lobby of the doctors office for your mommy that day? Or what elementary school textbook would have exposed you to Baalbek, the Stone of the Pregnant Woman no less, or even the minutia of the Roman Empire for that matter? Apparently Fridays were porky pie day at your school cafeteria. And "of course" like so many other "children" you accepted the "traditional narrative" until...

> But only when
> the new excavations revealed what lies under the
> surface did it become all too apparent to
> many of us that the Romans didn't do
> that work.

Really? So until these "new excavations" were made public in late 2014, only until it was "revealed what lied under the surface", as if what was already known wasn't enough, only "then" did it become "all too apparent to many [note his use of italics to stress the point] of us that the Romans didn't do the work"?

Not only does this show how little you did know of Baalbek at the time, i.e. before you got here, but you think that "many of us" were as ignorant of such things as you, despite your knowing about the Stone of the Pregnant Woman for 50yrs, before some of us were even born, that it was only until the end of 2014 and these "new" discoveries that it became "apparent" to "most of us" they may have not been placed there by the Romans? If by "most many of us" you mean yourself, Jon, and Audrey, well, maybe you are right, but please do not impose your stupidity or inclusions on the actual "most of us" who have been at this long before your "revolution" began 2yrs ago.

Thanos:

2013:
"The Temple Mount blocks remind one of the blocks at Baalbek, obviously not built by the Romans either."

2013:
"The Romans, who did use cranes, did not build the platform wall at Baalbek nor is there any indication they could regardless."

2013:
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RE:Baalbek, what the primary source Adams is suggesting is that the builders constructed a platform wall 26' high using blocks upwards of 300 tons, presumably using the same method as they went, then buried the entire structure effectively raising the surrounding landscape to the wall height which would have had to include an extended gently sloping ramp leading to the site where eventually they perfectly placed the 800 ton blocks. Adams suggests that at least 6 winch/pulley combo machines manned by 144 men would have been required to move one block at a time.

So, the questions are:

A) Do Adam's numbers even work out? How many cubic feet of earth would have been required to keep raising the landscape along with the wall? Where was it taken from and where was it dumped when the project was completed? Is there even any evidence a massive area surrounding the wall was buried on purpose, not by sediment, and then cleared?

B) Is there any evidence the Romans, Greeks, or Phoneticians ever used this revolutionary system before or after and if so why isn't classical times littered with 800-1200 ton stones? Why is there no record of them using this system to move the Egyptian obelisks? Certainly it would have come in handy especially given if it can easily move 800 ton blocks, 250 ton obelisks would have been a snap. But it wasn't for the Romans now was it?

C) Why only in this one spot did the Romans supposedly do this when such opportunities would have been available to them throughout the known world? This system would have revolutionized Roman construction all over the Roman Empire but it did not and what methods they did use are well known which this is not included.

D) And given the egos of succeeding emperors, wouldn't the impetus be to use this revolutionary system to move the same if not even bigger and bigger blocks?

E) The Romans make no mention anywhere of how they built this wall nor that they even constructed it in the first place. Surely such a magnificent feat-unique in all the ancient world, surpassing even the AE whom they so greatly admired, would have warranted some sort of dedication or acknowledgement. They did it for every other great accomplishment, like moving the obelisks, but not this? Surely such a wonderous deed would have been celebrated throughout the Roman Empire and revolutionized how heavy objects were moved inspiring the moving of many others, but instead they are uncharacteristically mute. Nothing. If the Romans were responsible, which they were not, how could this be?

F) If it were the Romans, regardless of the size, why did they use such a unique precision and style for this one wall at this one place, identical to those found thousands of years earlier like in Egypt, then never duplicate it again in all of the Roman empire? They didn't even come close to duplicating it for even anything they built right on top of it let alone anywhere else.

I am not suggesting the alternative is ancient aliens, but what is clear to me regardless is that the foundations in question at Baalbek were around long before the Romans and comparable Romanesque technology and materials. And even though the Russians of the 1700/1800's were able to devise ingenious methods using manpower, they did have at their disposal the relatively modern materials of forged/cast metals to make the tracks, ball bearings, winches, pulleys, sculpting tools and the like something that the AE for example did not have nor did the builders of the foundation of Baalbek if placed in their rightful historical context.

And while the blocks making up the Trilithion weigh approximately 800 tons, the ones still at the quarry were in the 1000-1200 ton range which the builders were able to quarry, precision cut and move their position at the quarry which stands to reason they were more than capable of moving them to the construction site and placing them with the same precision as well. Where is there any parallel to this in Roman history let alone after what is found in Egypt? And another thing, so what if the Romans moved pre-existing 250 ton Egyptian obelisks, most of the work was already done for them. Show me one example where the Romans cut, quarried, and constructed with blocks of this size, not the few random pillars mind you, let alone the larger 800-1200 ton blocks? And this says nothing about the precision the Baalbek stones were laid which is not found anywhere in the Roman world either. This is called context.

Gladly, I at least do not belong to this "most many of us" you are reffering to.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 19-Apr-17 01:17 by Thanos5150.

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ahhhh. an attack. how droll 440 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 451 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 436 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 513 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 364 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 434 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 381 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 447 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 419 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 383 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 476 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 516 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 632 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 589 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 527 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 494 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 307 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 540 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 690 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 582 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 366 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 516 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 666 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 511 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 619 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 390 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 427 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 404 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 506 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 431 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 436 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 345 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 382 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 474 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 451 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 377 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 430 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 598 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 352 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 385 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 544 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 418 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 311 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 365 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 392 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 497 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 332 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 382 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 411 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 587 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 354 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 534 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 572 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 458 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 466 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 522 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 365 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 457 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 464 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 611 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 357 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 531 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 523 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 552 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 410 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 349 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 376 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 362 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 418 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 424 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 400 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 429 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 392 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 504 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 502 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 635 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 415 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 457 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 385 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 405 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 587 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 733 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 392 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 537 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 474 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 419 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 455 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 362 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 432 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 416 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 318 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 547 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 432 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 375 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 361 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 513 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 338 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 389 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 436 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 431 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 499 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 397 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 426 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 482 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 486 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 347 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 544 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 386 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 400 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 459 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 412 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 412 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 355 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 331 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 430 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 450 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 494 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 624 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 579 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 392 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 485 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 512 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 324 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 436 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 497 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 505 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 524 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing...