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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Thanos5150 Wrote:
> > Again, what evidence can you offer of the
> > culture itself the AE adopted them from
> > beyond just the monuments themselves?

Once again Origyptian ignores the question and goes right back to the "monuments".

> Are you suggesting that those monuments do not
> represent an enormous amount of evidence of the
> capabilities of the culture that built them?

I have no doubt you understand the question, yet you choose to pretend to answer it time and again with the same response about the monuments never once addressing the actual question which asks for evidence other than that. If you don't know, which we all know you don't, just be honest for once and say so.

> First
> of all, I never said the Dynastics adopted those
> monuments, I said they adapted those monuments.

And I don't care and say it for what it is, "adoption", a term coined by the late Alan Alford nearly 20yrs ago, the one thing I do know about him: "Adoption Theory".
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In my book ‘The Phoenix Solution’ (1998), I noted that virtually all of the supposed evidence for 4th dynasty construction of the Giza Pyramids and Sphinx was, in fact, consistent with an adoption scenario. In other words, it seemed entirely plausible that the Egyptian kings Khufu and Khafre had adopted pre-existing structures in the form of the Great Pyramid, the Second Pyramid and the Sphinx...

Yet another example of your non-existent "revolution" you think has been happening here in "the last 2yrs".

> Second, what other evidence do you expect?

I will never understand why you are so often incapable of being honest. I know you are not stupid. The question has been explained many times before and if you truly do not understand what "culture" is beyond stone monuments you have even less reason to be here than you already do.

The irony, is that in my last few posts I am answering this question for you, like below.

> > You deny the
> > AE ability to craft hard stone, what I am
> getting
> > at is according to you something like this
> would
> > have to be evidence of one of the many cultures
> > you envision occupied AE prior to the Dynastic
> > Egyptians:



> How many times will traditionalists try to use
> that stone as evidence of provenance of such
> stonework in the 3rd millennium BC?

I know, right? How stupid must those "traditionalists" be to think 3,000yrs of uninterrupted depictions of pharaohs with their names on it and all the cultural trappings that go with it specific to only AE culture might actually belong to those very people. How foolish that their first thought 150yrs ago, which nothing has changed to the present day to contradict it, was instead they must be from a non-human/different species of human LC tens of thousands if not millions of years old.

> I've already
> mentioned many times that in my opinion, anyone
> with at least one functioning eye can see the
> vastly different craftsmanship that went into
> those chicken scratched graffiti glyphs on the
> base compared to the magnificent skill that went
> into the figures themselves.

So if the quality of the inscription is one of the determining factors then what are we to make of this:

Or say, this:


I would get your eyes checked as the statue inscriptions look exactly how they should which unlike the statue cannot be polished so it should be common sense they would retain inherent imperfections from hand engraving. Or is your expectation they were routered in with a CNC machine?

> It's this circular
> reptition of the same point that makes me avoid
> addressing your points all over again, year after
> year.

Yet you do all the same time and again offering the same evasions as always. And please understand the point of this is not for you, but a reminder for the readers who might still take you seriously at this point.

> At this point it's better if we simply agree
> to disagree than waste more bandwidth covering the
> same debate, discussion after discussion.

Please be honest as this is not a mere matter of "disagreement", nor are we having a "debate", as it is a point of fact you have no evidence to answer the question which anyone with at least one functioning eye can understand. And if you wish to stop wasting the bandwidth I suggest you stop promoting and imposing your world view on the rest of us by repeating the same nonsense over and over again post after post.

> > You believe this statue is tens of thousands of
> > years old and from the LC and the writing was
> > scrawled on there by AE squatters, right? I
> just
> > want to be clear.

> Not "is", but rather "could just as well be".
> Otherwise, yes, "clear".

"Could just as well be" AE or could be an LC millions of years old. Lol. "Who knows"? Egads.

Ok, so now that we cleared that up, when asked for evidence of the LC culture beyond the stone monuments you can answer now all of at least the igneous rock statues and artifacts like these:








Or just big statues like these:




If you are to be believed, that all of this is tens of thousands if not millions of years old, no one can say for sure, made by your LC, then in fact there is not only an abundance of their culture to be found beyond the monuments, like for example what clothes they wore, but also of what they looked like as these are the faces of the LC. You believe they were another species of human, or perhaps non-human-can you explain what it is about their anatomy that leads you to this conclusion? For example, what is it about these two that suggest to you they are "non-human" or a different species of human:


Is it the hawk growing out of the back of his head:


You also recently said that you are not sure if these things are 6,000 or 600 million(?) years old and have oft repeated we have no idea of knowing how old these "things" are. I wonder what their statues could tell us that would give us a clue:
Ram:

Hawk:

Domesticated dog:


Domesticated cat:

Baboons:


The domesticated cow:



And so forth.

Do you think the LC had domesticated dogs millions of years ago? Cats? Cows? I wonder if knowing when these animals first appeared in the anthropological record might give us some clue as to when the LC lived. Yet you just can't figure out how anyone might have a clue when these people lived and to you could just as easily have been tens of thousands if not hundreds of millions of years ago. Man, those traditionalist sure are stupid. What they hell are they thinking?

> Not just any "stone", mainly those which for which
> no tools or methods have been identified for 3rd
> millennium Egypt.

Can you give a few examples?

> And those tens of thousands of
> stone vessels discovered in the basement of Step
> Pyramid add an interesting ingredient to further
> amplify that mystery.

Right, like possibly the core of the stepped pyramid dates to the 1st or 2nd Dynasties which part and parcel of this stoneware are the seals and inscriptions found on them of these earlier pharaohs. Once again, you will find this idea is nothing new, one however, that I am keen on as well.

> But that's a sidebar which
> I'm not focusing on.

Good luck with that.

> Where is the evidence that such achievements were
> possible in 3rd millennium BC Egypt?
> Any artifacts
> of such tools?
> Any inscriptions describing or
> depicting such tools? Do the tombs of any
> architects, designers, builders, gang
> superivisors, etc. bring any of them to the
> afterlife? I'm certainly not the only one who's
> noticed that there indeed is a body of tools and
> documentation remaining behind from that era, but
> virtually nothing at all that speaks to their
> ability to achieve much of that stonework. Ther
> are far too many enigmas to ignore the disconnect.

That you are "not the only one" is beyond an understatement and pointed proof or your egocentric nature.
Its interesting that you use the lack of these things in their tombs as "proof" yet ignore if they did not exist they could never have made the very tombs in the first place which this evidence is not found.





By your logic then, these are once again not the work of the AE, but rather the LC. Again, if we beleive what you say it is not the LC that is missing from history but rather the Dynastic Egyptians themselves.

> I don't understand your logic there. Why wouldn't
> they be able to add a block of stone where one is
> damaged or decayed in order to attempt to preserve
> the original condition?

So you are saying the LC also built Saqqara as well? So this is the work of the LC:




Awesome.

But what tools would they use to make these repairs? How would they carve the blocks to fit or lift them to set them in place? Several OK writings spoken of tell us how they are getting boatload after boatload of stone blocks from the quarries at Tura and Aswan, inlcuding lots of granite which are also comprised of finished peices such as sarcophagi, doors, offering tables, ect, which according to you would have been for repairs and not construction. Did the LC just leave these boatloads of blocks lying around the quarries to be used for 3,000yrs of repairs? How did they move the blocks or get them on to boats? How did they unload them, drag them to the site and install them one after the other just perfectly to match the stone already there so that no one would ever be any the wiser they were not part of the original construction?

By giving them the ability to repair these monuments you have given them the very principles to build them in the first place. And yet by the same token the tools to do such repairs are also missing so I guess this means its all tens of thousands if not millions of years old, repairs and all.

> Especialily if they
> adapted those monuments into an expression of
> their own funerary context.

Barf.

> I tell you what, give me a few thousand
> investigators for a few centuries, just like
> orthodoxy has had. Then we'll see whether it's
> possible to arrive at a more realistic narrative
> than what orthodoxy has been able to concoct with
> a similarly immense effort.

Yes, too bad none of these "thousands of investigators" ever shared their findings with anyone ever. They kept it all to themselves telling us sheeple what to believe leaving us with nothing to figure it out for ourselves. The grandest of conspiracies. If only we had access to all of their notes or digs or even the literally millions of artifacts they discovered. If only we could see these monuments for ourselves, or any other ancient culture for that matter, to give context to the history of the ancient world. My, if we did I bet the obvious answer would appear that instead of any of this appearing as it seems, it would all be magically turned on its head attributed to the work of a non-human LC tens of thousands if not millions of years ago. And not just Egypt but everywhere any big blocks are found.

> That's your characterization, not mine.

Of course its not yours, but it is the truth nonetheless.

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 304 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 20:48
Ori goes to a classy restaurant! 463 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 23:12
Re: Ori goes to a classy restaurant! 430 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 03:46
Re: Ori goes to a classy restaurant! 425 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 11:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 421 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 00:23
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 420 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 04:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 369 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 11:23
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 452 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 13:06
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 430 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 13:42
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 433 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Audrey 19-Apr-17 00:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 453 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 01:09
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 393 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 01:26
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 456 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 01:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 462 Audrey 19-Apr-17 02:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 411 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 11:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 454 Warwick 19-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 444 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 00:36
Agrest and his sources 417 Merrell 20-Apr-17 12:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 413 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 01:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 451 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 487 Audrey 19-Apr-17 02:27
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 442 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 03:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 04:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 394 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 06:06
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 441 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 15:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Corpuscles 19-Apr-17 10:11
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 518 Morten 19-Apr-17 11:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 407 Corpuscles 19-Apr-17 11:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 359 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 436 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 00:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 425 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 430 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 406 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 384 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 333 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 358 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 323 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 350 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 230 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 416 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 257 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 350 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 282 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 345 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 330 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 253 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 372 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 415 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 533 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 328 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 410 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 218 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 442 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 455 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 492 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 432 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 545 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 423 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 511 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 313 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 315 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 331 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 331 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 348 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 250 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 284 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 366 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 369 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 281 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 346 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 510 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 259 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 287 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 423 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 299 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 220 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 264 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 301 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 229 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 223 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 279 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 291 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 472 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 242 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 379 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 337 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 343 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 249 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 352 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 372 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 507 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 317 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 269 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 310 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 412 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 317 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 240 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 273 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 308 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 307 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 275 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 332 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 305 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 263 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 406 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 392 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 322 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 353 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 298 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 316 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 379 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 577 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 289 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 419 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 386 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 318 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 325 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 255 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 353 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 313 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 228 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 431 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 213 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 239 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 254 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 409 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 231 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 295 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 333 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 324 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 410 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 300 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 313 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 375 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 377 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 259 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 433 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 290 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 311 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 225 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 301 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 328 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 273 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 237 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 336 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 356 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 279 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 378 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 388 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 289 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 398 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 414 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 223 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 342 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43