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Corpuscles Wrote:
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> Hi Audrey
>
>
> Audrey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> > worth thinking about.
>
> Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join
> the chorus', of appreciation for at least
> demonstrating considerable thought and effort,
> even though it is from a critical standpoint. You
> know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless)
> in the past.
>
>
> >
Quote
Warwick
> > Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> > BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions
> being
> > wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> > fits into all this is to propose a false
> > dichotomy
> >
> > "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> > orthos who have used Roth as a way to
> authenticate
> > the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> > assume you are intelligent enough to say where
> you
> > see it. If not, we can discard your
> "dichotomy".
>


Roth being wrong does not make Vyse wrong


> I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus
> with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of
> the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer
> cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be
> dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is
> there and tries to figure a rationale for it and
> it's significance. Rather than trying to
> speculate about what is not there!

>
> Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically
> been used directly "as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche". I suspect you mean the
> famous CC one.
>
> >
> > You are not understanding the debate. Let's try
> a
> > mind experiment....
>
> I realise this was addressed to Warwick ,



It was?? I understand the debate perfectly.

She is saying that if Roth is wrong about her finite conclusions then she is also wrong in concluding that they are quarry marks/crew names in the first place.

Which is nonsense


excuse
> me for interjecting when time permits. It seems
> this thread is still mainly all about justifying
> grand forgery on a major scale?
>
> > Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1,
> pretend
> > they don't exist. Set aside your convictions
> (if
> > possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> > cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> > know which one belonged to the builder of G1?
> HOW
> > could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> > Cheops/Suphis?

>
> Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several
> times before directly to your questions.
>


> Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu
> cartouche was not known?
> If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse
> possibly forge it?
>
> Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della
> Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?
>
> However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or
> does it?
>
>
> >
> > Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was,
> and
> > had been for a very long time, a search for the
> > ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not
> true
> > that finding the name of the builders would
> unlock
> > the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true
> that
> > every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> > Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought
> the
> > answer to the question of who built the
> pyramids?
> > Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it
> a
> > big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> > consequently the chronology for all of the
> ancient
> > east?
>
> True, they wanted to know who built them. However,
> these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the
> notion that the CC cartouche is the main and
> seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not
> the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology
> ..."
>
> >
> > Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery",
> they
> > would still be searching for the ones who built
> > the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> > stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?
>
>
> Serious question please consider (and answer) for
> your own benefit:
>
> Do you dispute all the links found between a
> family dynasty of kings queens relations of
> Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?
>
> Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and
> considered great pyramids to belong to that
> dynasty?
> Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues
> etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE
> thought they built them?
>
> If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in
> 1837?
>
>
>
>
> >
> > And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not
> in
> > fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back
> to
> > square one, still searching for it? And if the
> key
> > doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their
> conclusions
> > about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL
> is
> > based on this one key?

>
> Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might
> hope so, but regardless of that definitely
> NO!
>
>
> Some more questions that might help in the
> underlying point of your thread.
>
> Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to
> be all of the legible hieratic)in such a
> way that which opens up to the intriguing
> speculation about the meaning of the distribution
> of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her
> hypothesis?
>
> How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his
> original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk
> of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have
> a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why
> didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his
> purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu
> cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his
> sole intent?
>
> Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name
> could be written outside of a serekh, and/or
> otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a
> "secret document" then how did he read it?
>
> Cheers


He either knew too much or not enough.

Considering the normal state of affairs here, I'm shocked that so many think the former, when they constantly accuse literally 1000's of academics of not knowing enough.


Warwick

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 445 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 534 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 00:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 513 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 683 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 521 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 470 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 414 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 446 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 411 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 432 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 370 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 500 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 346 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 422 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 361 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 430 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 403 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 360 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 460 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 500 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 615 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 552 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 437 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 406 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 483 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 524 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 561 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 573 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 336 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 507 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 639 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 500 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 598 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 380 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 417 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 388 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 415 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 416 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 419 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 331 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 362 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 452 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 442 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 362 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 413 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 586 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 331 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 375 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 524 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 397 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 297 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 353 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 377 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 316 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 476 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 301 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 370 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 370 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 568 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 344 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 510 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 551 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 433 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 439 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 505 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 344 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 440 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 455 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 588 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 391 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 346 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 428 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 506 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 531 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 399 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 365 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 388 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 403 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 365 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 413 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 381 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 400 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 482 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 587 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 405 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 436 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 373 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 394 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 516 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 698 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 371 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 524 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 463 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 394 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 430 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 342 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 423 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 389 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 306 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 517 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 342 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 363 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 334 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 502 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 321 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 379 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 424 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 418 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 480 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 377 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 394 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 462 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 464 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 336 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 516 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 370 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 385 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 391 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 393 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 402 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 345 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 321 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 421 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 432 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 412 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 544 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 563 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 372 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 476 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 500 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 300 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 424 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 487 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 433 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 497 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 527 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05