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Corpuscles Wrote:
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> Hi Audrey
>
>
> Audrey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> > worth thinking about.
>
> Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join
> the chorus', of appreciation for at least
> demonstrating considerable thought and effort,
> even though it is from a critical standpoint. You
> know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless)
> in the past.
>
>
> >
Quote
Warwick
> > Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> > BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions
> being
> > wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> > fits into all this is to propose a false
> > dichotomy
> >
> > "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> > orthos who have used Roth as a way to
> authenticate
> > the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> > assume you are intelligent enough to say where
> you
> > see it. If not, we can discard your
> "dichotomy".
>


Roth being wrong does not make Vyse wrong


> I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus
> with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of
> the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer
> cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be
> dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is
> there and tries to figure a rationale for it and
> it's significance. Rather than trying to
> speculate about what is not there!

>
> Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically
> been used directly "as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche". I suspect you mean the
> famous CC one.
>
> >
> > You are not understanding the debate. Let's try
> a
> > mind experiment....
>
> I realise this was addressed to Warwick ,



It was?? I understand the debate perfectly.

She is saying that if Roth is wrong about her finite conclusions then she is also wrong in concluding that they are quarry marks/crew names in the first place.

Which is nonsense


excuse
> me for interjecting when time permits. It seems
> this thread is still mainly all about justifying
> grand forgery on a major scale?
>
> > Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1,
> pretend
> > they don't exist. Set aside your convictions
> (if
> > possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> > cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> > know which one belonged to the builder of G1?
> HOW
> > could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> > Cheops/Suphis?

>
> Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several
> times before directly to your questions.
>


> Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu
> cartouche was not known?
> If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse
> possibly forge it?
>
> Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della
> Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?
>
> However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or
> does it?
>
>
> >
> > Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was,
> and
> > had been for a very long time, a search for the
> > ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not
> true
> > that finding the name of the builders would
> unlock
> > the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true
> that
> > every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> > Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought
> the
> > answer to the question of who built the
> pyramids?
> > Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it
> a
> > big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> > consequently the chronology for all of the
> ancient
> > east?
>
> True, they wanted to know who built them. However,
> these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the
> notion that the CC cartouche is the main and
> seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not
> the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology
> ..."
>
> >
> > Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery",
> they
> > would still be searching for the ones who built
> > the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> > stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?
>
>
> Serious question please consider (and answer) for
> your own benefit:
>
> Do you dispute all the links found between a
> family dynasty of kings queens relations of
> Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?
>
> Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and
> considered great pyramids to belong to that
> dynasty?
> Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues
> etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE
> thought they built them?
>
> If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in
> 1837?
>
>
>
>
> >
> > And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not
> in
> > fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back
> to
> > square one, still searching for it? And if the
> key
> > doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their
> conclusions
> > about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL
> is
> > based on this one key?

>
> Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might
> hope so, but regardless of that definitely
> NO!
>
>
> Some more questions that might help in the
> underlying point of your thread.
>
> Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to
> be all of the legible hieratic)in such a
> way that which opens up to the intriguing
> speculation about the meaning of the distribution
> of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her
> hypothesis?
>
> How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his
> original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk
> of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have
> a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why
> didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his
> purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu
> cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his
> sole intent?
>
> Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name
> could be written outside of a serekh, and/or
> otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a
> "secret document" then how did he read it?
>
> Cheers


He either knew too much or not enough.

Considering the normal state of affairs here, I'm shocked that so many think the former, when they constantly accuse literally 1000's of academics of not knowing enough.


Warwick

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 464 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 00:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 448 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 497 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 435 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 416 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 359 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 381 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 346 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 370 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 258 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 442 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 286 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 372 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 308 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 370 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 277 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 440 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 556 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 275 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 355 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 433 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 241 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 466 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 481 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 515 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 275 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 458 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 573 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 446 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 537 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 334 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 362 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 338 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 355 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 357 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 370 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 280 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 306 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 384 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 389 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 299 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 362 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 538 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 280 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 309 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 449 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 324 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 241 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 294 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 254 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 425 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 313 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 271 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 497 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 265 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 430 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 402 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 368 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 369 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 447 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 279 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 378 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 404 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 532 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 294 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 336 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 432 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 458 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 347 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 262 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 314 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 291 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 334 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 337 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 297 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 359 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 327 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 288 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 429 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 440 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 346 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 375 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 318 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 341 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 405 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 606 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 310 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 443 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 406 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 337 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 355 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 288 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 372 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 336 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 255 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 452 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 231 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 271 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 272 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 440 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 256 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 317 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 367 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 351 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 430 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 325 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 336 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 395 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 400 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 282 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 453 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 309 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 330 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 246 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 323 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 353 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 293 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 261 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 358 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 372 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 300 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 400 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 412 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 423 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 435 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 248 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 360 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 407 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 463 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05