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Racho Wrote:
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> Banging away at the granite...didn't get too far
> with modern tools really/obviously.
>
> check this out...
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> 1:56 min mark.
>
> probably seen before but I have to come back to
> the Longou caves. Trying to tell me that this
> doesn't look machined? No record of construction
> and we know how far back China's records go back.
> Damn far. There is a photo of a modern boring
> machine right after - now something like that I
> can buy into. ;)
>
> D
>
> edited to add that I've now watched the whole vid
> and this is smoking gun stuff. Of course this was
> machined...I mean there are clear comparisons to
> modern machine markings to those of the cave and
> it's an exact match. My guess is that they weren't
> steam powered either.

And yet the notion, "Well, they obviously knew how to do it with the relatively primitive tools they had!", just doesn't cut it.

I would submit that it's impossible to navigate a hand chisel in such precise parallel lines.

Where on earth are those tools?!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Apr-17 14:23 by Origyptian.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3213 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 881 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 784 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 769 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 344 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 391 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 653 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 653 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 418 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 611 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 589 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 653 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 747 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 831 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 529 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 611 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 558 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 467 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 370 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 348 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 411 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 347 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 443 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 390 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 438 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 415 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 319 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 255 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 325 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 294 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 304 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 313 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 318 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 284 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 566 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 93 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 94 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 78 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 89 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 88 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 94 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 127 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 620 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 423 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 468 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 380 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 429 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 434 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 476 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 448 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 373 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 384 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 402 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 438 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 389 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 415 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 521 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 424 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 484 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 413 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 440 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 429 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 491 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 388 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 426 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 443 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 545 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 408 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 486 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 514 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 433 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 457 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 417 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 389 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 446 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 422 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 406 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 397 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 450 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 427 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 428 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 409 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 569 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 562 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 487 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 457 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 477 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 476 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 519 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 443 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 421 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 437 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 416 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 504 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 512 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 423 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 431 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 429 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 475 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 439 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 398 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 510 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 311 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 464 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 305 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 417 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 399 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 383 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 397 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 454 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 463 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 268 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 299 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 387 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 493 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 332 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 467 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 390 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 380 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 458 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 382 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 398 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 433 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 338 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 423 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 345 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 424 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 341 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 404 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 440 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 338 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 412 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 317 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 361 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 366 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 626 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 397 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 410 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 498 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 541 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 412 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 438 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 556 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 586 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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