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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > that should be "stone" walled. ;)
> >
> > why would you polish it first? Doesn't that
> make
> > it harder to work?
>
> Polishing is all it did, it removed the surface
> irregularities. Then it brick walled.
> No more progress. No cutting. Try yourself.
>
>
> >
> > That applies to any medium in my experience
> >
> > Isn't calling 10's of 1000's of academics and
> > scholars 'full of crap' a little over the
> > top????
>
> In terms of using copper tubes to make bore holes
> in granite all I can say is they didn't try it and
> think it through. The AE didn't have seamless
> tube. If they made tube by rolling and soft
> soldering that's fine for ornaments and teapots.
> Not going to hold up in a drill my friend..
> I've spent a lot of time in academia.


so what? is this a pissing contest now. Bank balances next?


It is
> possible that the same old ideas just get accepted
> and written and re-written without question. With
> nothing more than that all important biliography
> for support.


Not to the conspiratorial degree you are inferring


> In fact some don't even bother to read the damn
> book they just go straight to that all important
> bibliography.
> Path of least resistance.


And then there are those idiots like myself who read everything, including peer review and other scholarly criticism


>
>
> >
> > You seem to be equating one not having
> convincing
> > proof of something with being purposefully
> > deceitful.
>
> No it's institutionalised and accepted practice.


I see, the further one goes I n academia the less one attempts to learn ?????




what DO you have against the human race to have such a sour view of higher learning?



> Not a conspiracy. The economic money go round.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Oh wait....that is what is at the bottom of
> this,
> > isn't it.
> >
> > The valiant defenders of the truth striking out
> at
> > the Victorian Academics who were all
> egotistical
> > frauds.
>
> Not necessarily. However in most disciplines such
> as medicine and engineering those victorian books
> are considered a tad out of date. Methods and
> techniques move forward. New ways of looking at
> evidence. Far more people looking more critically
> at the evidence. Today people are far less
> restraind by socio political and religious
> pressures.
> Look at Darwin .. How many years before he had the
> courage to publish?


or Champollion for that matter

were they slothful tenure seeking dullards as well?



>
> As a kid I was taught that dinosaurs lumbered
> around dragging their tails and were to stupid to
> evolve and survive.
> Now we have them multicoloured, feathered and
> sprinting. Top of the tree for a couple of hundred
> million years.
> My advice is don't read victorian dinosaur books.
>
> >


They don't seem t be anywhere near my ancient history library




> >
> > More of my nonsense to you I suppose
>
> You suppose wrong. Try not to suppose.

you don't wish evidence to contribute to my conclusions?


Make up YOUR mind!


warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3397 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 932 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 839 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 825 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 392 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 448 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 705 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 701 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 468 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 662 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 649 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 711 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 799 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 893 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 588 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 667 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 613 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 522 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 419 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 399 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 468 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 407 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 493 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 453 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 499 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 478 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 368 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 304 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 379 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 343 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 354 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 360 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 372 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 335 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 625 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 141 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 147 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 128 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 142 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 140 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 147 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 181 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 679 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 473 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 526 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 433 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 483 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 486 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 526 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 505 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 475 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 434 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 453 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 488 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 437 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 464 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 569 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 488 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 475 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 555 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 458 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 525 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 507 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 480 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 544 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 480 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 463 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 497 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 596 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 460 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 539 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 566 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 481 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 487 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 510 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 470 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 499 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 474 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 446 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 502 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 477 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 478 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 460 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 618 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 610 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 529 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 504 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 524 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 534 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 579 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 490 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 484 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 472 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 484 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 466 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 567 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 563 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 490 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 483 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 530 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 492 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 498 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 485 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 452 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 567 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 365 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 513 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 354 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 465 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 470 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 438 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 448 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 510 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 507 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 312 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 356 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 433 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 548 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 382 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 517 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 438 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 431 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 510 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 432 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 446 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 492 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 387 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 473 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 393 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 469 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 383 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 468 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 495 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 378 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 461 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 358 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 411 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 410 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 676 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 439 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 461 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 557 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 584 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 464 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 484 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 724 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 638 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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