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Oh but we do and we can show ;) Dunn and others have measured the feed rates where striations are found. We know the diameter and width of the blades to within very close approximation. Isn't this the elephant in the room after all?

Fast saws and the work was easy. No banging on chisels. Don't people pay any attention to the many vids out there/in here which clearly show these feed rates etc.? Can't be done with hand tools man. nuhuh

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3307 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 909 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 812 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 799 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 369 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 415 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 678 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 677 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 446 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 636 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 620 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 684 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 774 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 869 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 556 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 641 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 585 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 494 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 396 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 374 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 447 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 378 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 467 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 425 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 474 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 444 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 345 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 280 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 354 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 319 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 332 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 338 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 345 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 312 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 600 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 117 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 124 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 105 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 116 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 114 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 123 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 157 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 649 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 449 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 503 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 409 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 457 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 460 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 502 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 479 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 429 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 412 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 428 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 463 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 415 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 440 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 548 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 464 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 532 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 439 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 479 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 520 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 456 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 440 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 571 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 433 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 513 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 543 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 457 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 468 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 484 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 442 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 416 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 475 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 447 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 432 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 421 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 476 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 450 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 593 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 588 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 510 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 484 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 502 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 507 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 551 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 469 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 459 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 443 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 466 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 447 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 536 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 540 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 448 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 463 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 504 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 464 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 424 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 539 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 335 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 488 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 332 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 439 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 425 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 409 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 420 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 485 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 490 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 290 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 330 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 411 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 524 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 358 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 495 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 417 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 403 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 486 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 409 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 427 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 464 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 366 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 450 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 369 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 448 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 363 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 426 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 467 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 361 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 435 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 338 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 386 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 390 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 655 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 422 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 436 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 526 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 563 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 436 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 458 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 631 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 614 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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