Audrey Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Thanks. Is that what the egyptillogicalists say?
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> Yup, they say it's dated by cartouche and pottery.
> They have not C14'd anything, although they claim
> an abundance of wood and cloth was found. BUT...
> how do the date the pottery? By the shape, the
> neck, the handle. Then they look in their pottery
> catalog (seriously) and match it. How do they know
> a piece in the catalog really is from the 4th dyn?
> Because said piece was found in a tomb, a
> cemetery, or near a pyramid. In other words, by
> location. How do they know that location is 4th
> dyn? By the cartouches. There's no escaping this
> perfectly circular logic. A couple have tried to
> use the cattle count to place the year within the
> king's reign, sidestepping the problem of an
> absence of an AE calendar. Without calendar, there
> is no 0 point to work forwards or backwards from.
> Cattle count in which decade, in which century?

Tallet uses the cattle count to date Merer's spreadsheet at el-Jarf, which he uses, in turn, to fuel his claim (not hypothesis) that because the papyrus mentions the shipment of an unspecified number and size of limestone blocks to Giza (without stating the purpose of those blocks) and includes a Khufu cartouche (translation of context not provided), it therefore is (not "might be") contemporaneous with the construction of G1 which, in turn, dates it to the end of Khufu's reign in 3rd mill. BC, which therefore makes it the oldest papyrus ever found, etc., etc., etc., To his credit, Marouard is not so optimistic.