cladking Wrote:
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> > I doubt it were designed by the work crew they
> > would have taken the path of least resistance
> and
> > least work for themselves, which is of course
> > regular cuboid block work.
>
> They were given specific rules concerning balance
> points, number of sides, minimum length of side,
> etc, etc and had to work within the confines of
> these rules.

So how did the designer communicate his complex design ideas (in his head) to the craft persons that were executing the finished blocks?


>
> > Verbal instruction is impossible to communicate
>
> > and resolve in complex three dimensional forms.
>
> > That's why we have drawings.
>
> I agree. Even ancient language was not up to
> describing extremely complex shapes and
> characteristics. But it was up to describing the
> characteristics and properties of the finished
> product and delineating the rules in a non
> arbitrary way to achieve the result.
>
> > As above, communicating these multiple, complex
>
> > intersecting angles by any means other than a
> > drawing is impossible.
>
> I agree, but this doesn't mean that these shapes
> ever existed in a blueprint. It merely means they
> are very complex.

Again.. complex inter fitting shapes need a design as they cannot occur randomly. No two blocks are identical but many are very similar. Also the similarity is carried over three distinct groups of blocks. Therefore they need a designer.
A design/concept is a mental process ..(in the mind), how did the designer communicate his wishes (in his mind) to those carrying out the work?


>
> > What we see here is the result of craftsmen
> > accurately following a plan.
> > A very complex plan. There's no alternative. The
>
> > image speaks for itself.
>
> Every single particle and event in the cosmos is
> affected by everything that currently exists and
> has existed in the past. Imagine the computations
> mother nature would have to perform on even the
> simplest processes!!!

I'm not sure that the G1 is the result of natural processes. It carries all the hallmarks of very intelligent design.


A stone teeters on the edge
> of a precipous and mother nature needs to
> determine if the movement of Mars and its tidal
> forces will push it over or not. For almost all
> practical purposes each event is determined by
> observable conditions and forces; ie- each event
> follows a few simple rules. But we can't predict
> the shape of the next cloud or even agree on what
> forces caused all past events. Reality is
> exceedingly complex but appears simple to us most
> f the time; it appears to merely be following a
> few simple rules most of the time. Look at the
> stunning complexity of nature and its creatures.
> Bees make hives with no blueprints and Egyptians
> built pyramids with "no" "blueprints".

I'm sorry but the linear and consistent and exact nature of the pyramid AP block work in no way resembles any natural process including bee hives or random background noise.

What were the "simple rules"?
You suggested that available block size and shape maybe a factor. Available blocks that repeat themselves in threes, three times over??? If that had been received by Seti it would cause considerable excitement.

Problem is how does a designer get the mental picture in his head (concept) transferred to the craftsmen in such a way as to allow them to execute the project, a very complex inter fitting project.
The only simple rule is to follow the designers drawing. A necessarily complex mathematical, three dimensional drawing. Not simple. Not piecemeal. Not cobbled together. No simple rules.
Designed and executed with astonishing precision!

I get the impression that you don't fully understand what's going on here.




How does one accurately describe this to another person, without making an accurate blueprint/drawing in such a way that they can produce an exact copy of your mental/imagined picture.
Even if the designer were also the block carver, carving the first block intuitively, freehand, how does he then carve the second interfitting block without the aid of a 'visual thought transfer device'. (A Drawing).
I guess telepathy would help.

If you are saying that something existed that somehow replaced what we know today as a blueprint or a visual communication, telepathy, sixth sense, incredibly complex verbal instructions, then that's another matter.
However there has to be a means to transfer the concept to the production team. AKA a blueprint.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09-Mar-17 20:32 by Jon Ellison.