> Corpuscles Wrote:
> > In your schooling did you ever disagree with a
> > statement from teacher or lecturer or Professor?
> > Surely you must have?
> > Did you just blurt out "I challenge that!" or "I
> > disagree with that!"?
> > I reckon the only first response would be
> > ....please explain the basis of your challenge.
> > If you persist and then it will eventually turn
> > into ignore or ridicule!
> > Get it?
> Sorry, no, I don't get it.
No, Doctor, you won’t get it. Significant difference.
> I only asked on what basis you made your claim
> about the age of the papyrus. I didn't "disagree
> with a statement from you". And so the "basis of
> my challenge" is simply to understand why you
> consider that papyrus to be "the oldest one ever
I really should keep a bucket by me when I read this board.
Doctor Femano conveniently “forgets” that “challenge” is his chosen wording and “challenger” the status he claimed.
The object of his “challenge” being given in these words: “I need no evidence to challenge the claim that those papyri are the oldest ever found.” A simple request for information, in pursuit of understanding⸮ I don’t think so.
> I admit it's sometimes difficult to tell when
> you're being sarcastic. So if you provided that
> link to the GH.com article in the spirit of
> levity, then message received (the article
> challenges many aspects of those papyri), but if
> you truly do believe that those papyri date to
> mid-3rd mill. BC and are indeed the oldest ever
> found, then I just would like to know why you
> believe that. For example, is it context, RCD, the
> English translation, the inherent credibility
> imbued in Tallet, et al., etc.?
> And I've never heard of a teacher putting the
> burden on the student as you described. If a
> teacher in earth science teaches the class "You
> cannot survive for very long at an altitude higher
> than 26,000' above sea level" and the students
> ask why that is, the competent teacher will
> provide the appropriate backup information such as
> "...because there's not enough oxygen", or
> "there's not enough water" or whatever. The
> teacher will not say "Now hold on a second, you
> can't challenge my assertion unless you explain
> the basis of your challenge". The "basis of the
> challenge" is simply that the students are trying
> to understand the reason for the "26,000'"
The liar just can’t help lying.
Notice how he’s changed the example. The student’s “challenge” becomes (as above) an innocent request for information, with naming it a “challenge” put in the teacher’s mouth. Doctor Femano again conveniently “forgets” that “challenge” is his chosen wording, “challenger” his self-description and “to challenge the claim that those papyri are the oldest ever found” his stated object. No, he is not just asking for background information: he’s hinting, suggesting, implicating that the “claim” is wrong, an insinuation for which he offers no evidence or argument other than the conspiracy theory which he assumes as a default.
I’ve had one or two things to say before now about his “privileged challenger” bullshit. A selection:
Funny how our Prophet of Higher Standards is so lax and indulgent in those he sets for himself.