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Manu Wrote:
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> You forget the alignments of the shafts which
> further narrow the possibilities since all four
> targets have to be in place at the same time for
> the shafts to aim at them. In addition to that,
> Sirius' significant proper motion introduces an
> additional variable which further restricts our
> choices here. For King-south and Queen south to
> point at Alnitak and Sirius, respectively, and
> King-north to point at Thuban, AND Queen north to
> point at Kochab more than just a repeating
> precessional cycle is required. Your list dwindles
> quickly down to the 25th century B.C.
>
> 1) King Chamber south shaft pointed to Alnitak
> 2) Queen Chamber south shaft pointed to Sirius
> 3) King Chamber north shaft pointed to Alpha Thuban
> 4) Queen Chamber north shaft pointed to Ursa minor
> at Kochab
> The burden of proof is on you to recreated all
> four targets with the identical angles for any of
> the other times you list.
Sounds like you did the work for me by arriving at 25th century BC. Or do you consider that to be proposterous (if so, on what basis?)
And those stars were "pointed to" by those features all at the same time of day? What stars might have been pointed to at a different time of day? What's the point of what seems to be an artibrary correlation?
The point is, there's no evidence that it was the 3rd millennium BC, so there seems to be little reason to focus mainly on alpha-Draconis since we have no reason to believe the north pole was 3.7 degrees higher in the sky 4500 years ago. Considering the vast concentration of stars out there, what architectural edge or passage in any monument ISN'T aligned with a star at just about every moment in the day?
> The D.P.'s angle suggests it was pointing at ursa
> major during the time of a helical rising.
Significance of ursa major?
> PS: I was in the King Chamber three weeks ago.
> There is absolutely no evidence that any kind of
> combustion stained the walls and ceiling.
> In fact, the evidence rules it out. The darker tones are
> sharply demarcated at the edges of the blocks both
> along the height seams and the ceiling blocks. If
> the darker color tones came from combustion, they
> would not respect seams between blocks. They would
> randomly bleed across. This is not seen.
>
> The sarcophagus, likewise, shows no stains
> reminiscent of combustion.
I'm unaware of any "combustion" hypothesis in the KC. I am aware that there is what appears to be signs of high pressure and also vitrification, the latter implying intense heat. If you're referring to charred surfaces, do you suppose that none of those "restoration" projects did their share of "cleaning" the outer surfaces of those granite blocks which might have removed any charred residue remaining there from ancient times?
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> You forget the alignments of the shafts which
> further narrow the possibilities since all four
> targets have to be in place at the same time for
> the shafts to aim at them. In addition to that,
> Sirius' significant proper motion introduces an
> additional variable which further restricts our
> choices here. For King-south and Queen south to
> point at Alnitak and Sirius, respectively, and
> King-north to point at Thuban, AND Queen north to
> point at Kochab more than just a repeating
> precessional cycle is required. Your list dwindles
> quickly down to the 25th century B.C.
>
> 1) King Chamber south shaft pointed to Alnitak
> 2) Queen Chamber south shaft pointed to Sirius
> 3) King Chamber north shaft pointed to Alpha Thuban
> 4) Queen Chamber north shaft pointed to Ursa minor
> at Kochab
> The burden of proof is on you to recreated all
> four targets with the identical angles for any of
> the other times you list.
Sounds like you did the work for me by arriving at 25th century BC. Or do you consider that to be proposterous (if so, on what basis?)
And those stars were "pointed to" by those features all at the same time of day? What stars might have been pointed to at a different time of day? What's the point of what seems to be an artibrary correlation?
The point is, there's no evidence that it was the 3rd millennium BC, so there seems to be little reason to focus mainly on alpha-Draconis since we have no reason to believe the north pole was 3.7 degrees higher in the sky 4500 years ago. Considering the vast concentration of stars out there, what architectural edge or passage in any monument ISN'T aligned with a star at just about every moment in the day?
> The D.P.'s angle suggests it was pointing at ursa
> major during the time of a helical rising.
Significance of ursa major?
> PS: I was in the King Chamber three weeks ago.
> There is absolutely no evidence that any kind of
> combustion stained the walls and ceiling.
> In fact, the evidence rules it out. The darker tones are
> sharply demarcated at the edges of the blocks both
> along the height seams and the ceiling blocks. If
> the darker color tones came from combustion, they
> would not respect seams between blocks. They would
> randomly bleed across. This is not seen.
>
> The sarcophagus, likewise, shows no stains
> reminiscent of combustion.
I'm unaware of any "combustion" hypothesis in the KC. I am aware that there is what appears to be signs of high pressure and also vitrification, the latter implying intense heat. If you're referring to charred surfaces, do you suppose that none of those "restoration" projects did their share of "cleaning" the outer surfaces of those granite blocks which might have removed any charred residue remaining there from ancient times?
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