Origyptian Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > Origyptian Wrote:
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> > > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > ...
> > > > But to say that the AE did not build them
> because
> > > > we cannot prove they knew how to establish
> the
> > > > cardinal points is a non starter
> > >
> > > Who said that? I never stated such a causal
> > > relationship. Being able to align such large
> scale
> > > construction with cardinal points, is just
> one
> > > method along with a plethora of other tools
> and
> > > methods required to achieve that work. Your
> > > attempt to hang the entire construction on
> simply
> > > being able to calculate cardinal points is
> your
> > > construct, not mine.
> >
> >
> > OK oh great elusive one!!
> >
> > Do you think they could have aligned them
> > cardinally if they did not know how to
> establish
> > the cardinal points?
> >
> > Yes or NO
> >
> > It's not a trick question
> >
> > Warwick
>
> "elusive one"? Hardly. I'm very open about my
> position on most subjects discussed here.
>
> And I agree it's not a trick question. But I'm
> guessing I have a different opinion than yours
> about who "they" are.
>
> For example, if by "AE" you mean the builders of
> the Giza pyramids, then yes, I do believe they
> knew how to establish the cardinal points.
>
> But if you mean the Dynastics, then no, I am not
> convinced they could establish the cardinal
> points, especially during the Old Kingdom.



But that's my point. I can barely mention anything concerning the Old Kingdom without you claiming not to know about it.

Having said that, other than your doubts re their technology(which are your doubts, not established facts) on what grounds do you dismiss the possibility that they did build them??

And if someone else built them, who,when,why?


>
> Meanwhile, what seems to be "elusive" is direct
> evidence to support the notion that the Dynastic
> built those things despite the huge volume of
> artifacts they left behind.


There is very little DIRECT evidence that is universally accepted about our past in general. Without Arab scholars and a few irish monks there would be even less.

The past is a jig saw puzzle. you can move the pieces you have around but throwing some out without being sure they do not fit doesn't work.


warwick