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Author: Jon Ellison wrote
Date: January 13, 2017 11:09PM
Hi Steve.
Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
I think Ori's points about river levels and the surrounding cemeteries are valid.
The ground layout of the cemeteries has zilch in common with the ground layout of the P'mids.
As they say in cockney rhyming slang, "As pi**ed as a handcart" (I'll let you figure out what handcart rhymes with) lol
I'm pretty sure that water had a lot to do with the construction, but keep in mind that the builders were master surveyors as evidenced by the position of the P'mid relative to the geo pole. If they could get that bang on they'd have had little difficulty in achieving a level over a large area. I would have thought that they'd use a similar method of surveying to achieve a level,
Can you use water to achieve a compass bearing alignment?
I've no idea what methods they used, they could have used water for levelling if they could keep the courses watertight. There may be a problem with evaporation, like a very shallow lake over a large stone surface.
Also there's the problem of getting hundreds of tons of water up there. I'll leave that to you.
Anyway keep up the good work buddy, following you all the way.
Good luck.
Hi Jon,
>Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
Not at all. I always look forward to hear from you. I also agree with Ori. For one thing, an older build date, only increases rain fall.
>I've no idea what methods they used, they could have used water for levelling if they could keep the courses watertight.
I have read, they used two different types of plaster. One as a filler. and a thinner set used on the outer casing stones. What would be interesting, is to determine if one or both were water prof. I have the evaporation rate, and will need to find that. The thing about water, once you figure out the amount including the evaporation rate, many workers can see the high points and knock them down. Those chips would help keep the water from sinking quickly. Those chips would also lend themselves as a filler. I will retrieve my information, and figure on a 2" depth. If they worked quick enough, they would just work their way down until satisfied. My feeling about using water, is that, if they entrapped rain on top, it could be used as a free energy source. Not as an electrical source, though as a counterweight. I cannot think of another free labor saving scenario. Men need allot of water when working. They become thirsty quickly.
1st. lift and place all the Casing Stones and seal water tight.
2. Lift water and level that tier.
3. Continue working by Shadufing water up the Pyramid face, placing stones as usual. If rain did happen by, you sit back and let the Pyramid collect water. That means, your Shadufing men have a day or two off, or placed onto other jobs. Possibly there was a Geyser and/or artisan well. In either case, if you built the Pyramid and built around it, you would have a source at each level, until the water's column's weight was greater than the pressure produced by the source.
Here is the first step, in determining the likelihood of Men with ropes pulled stones up long earth ramps. I was surprised, as the picture is misleading. At the stage that Houldin represents, the ramp is approx. 18% of the Pyramid. Hopefully, over the weekend I can develop a good idea as to the speed they could travel, and how many of them could fit on that ramp at one time.
Cheers
Date: January 13, 2017 11:09PM
Hi Steve.
Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
I think Ori's points about river levels and the surrounding cemeteries are valid.
The ground layout of the cemeteries has zilch in common with the ground layout of the P'mids.
As they say in cockney rhyming slang, "As pi**ed as a handcart" (I'll let you figure out what handcart rhymes with) lol
I'm pretty sure that water had a lot to do with the construction, but keep in mind that the builders were master surveyors as evidenced by the position of the P'mid relative to the geo pole. If they could get that bang on they'd have had little difficulty in achieving a level over a large area. I would have thought that they'd use a similar method of surveying to achieve a level,
Can you use water to achieve a compass bearing alignment?
I've no idea what methods they used, they could have used water for levelling if they could keep the courses watertight. There may be a problem with evaporation, like a very shallow lake over a large stone surface.
Also there's the problem of getting hundreds of tons of water up there. I'll leave that to you.
Anyway keep up the good work buddy, following you all the way.
Good luck.
Hi Jon,
>Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
Not at all. I always look forward to hear from you. I also agree with Ori. For one thing, an older build date, only increases rain fall.
>I've no idea what methods they used, they could have used water for levelling if they could keep the courses watertight.
I have read, they used two different types of plaster. One as a filler. and a thinner set used on the outer casing stones. What would be interesting, is to determine if one or both were water prof. I have the evaporation rate, and will need to find that. The thing about water, once you figure out the amount including the evaporation rate, many workers can see the high points and knock them down. Those chips would help keep the water from sinking quickly. Those chips would also lend themselves as a filler. I will retrieve my information, and figure on a 2" depth. If they worked quick enough, they would just work their way down until satisfied. My feeling about using water, is that, if they entrapped rain on top, it could be used as a free energy source. Not as an electrical source, though as a counterweight. I cannot think of another free labor saving scenario. Men need allot of water when working. They become thirsty quickly.
1st. lift and place all the Casing Stones and seal water tight.
2. Lift water and level that tier.
3. Continue working by Shadufing water up the Pyramid face, placing stones as usual. If rain did happen by, you sit back and let the Pyramid collect water. That means, your Shadufing men have a day or two off, or placed onto other jobs. Possibly there was a Geyser and/or artisan well. In either case, if you built the Pyramid and built around it, you would have a source at each level, until the water's column's weight was greater than the pressure produced by the source.
Here is the first step, in determining the likelihood of Men with ropes pulled stones up long earth ramps. I was surprised, as the picture is misleading. At the stage that Houldin represents, the ramp is approx. 18% of the Pyramid. Hopefully, over the weekend I can develop a good idea as to the speed they could travel, and how many of them could fit on that ramp at one time.

Cheers
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