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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Water which has escaped, is harvesting. FYI, 4" of
> water per year would simply evaporate. Wiggle out
> of that one! And please, don't tell me it
> "magically appeared".
Their water was cool and effervescent. It appeared violently at 81' 3" because it was rapidly decarbonating as it shot out of the ground; out of the eye of horus.
> Concede the point. There was more water than you
> lead us to believe.
~120 ac ft/ yr.
> There is no "single" Mother nature rule
> that is being accounted for. There are multitudes
> of them.
Mother nature takes accounting of all the forces and processes acting on something. We don't need to worry about relativistic effects or tidal effects when building pyramids. We needn't concern ourselves with the buoyancy of stone in air. We don't need to make the virtually infinite number of calculations made by mother nature or we couldn't build a pyramid at all nor could we reverse engineer one. The only things you need to know to compute the work of lifting the stones is the weight, the height, and the efficiency. The weight is 6 1/2 million tons, the height is 150', and the only thing of interest here is the efficiency. If they used a method only "one tenth" efficient like ramps it would mean they'd have to do ten times as much work. If they used something highly efficient like just carrying the stones up it would increase work just a little. Of course it was "impossible" to just pick them up but this is to illustrate the point.
My contention is simply that even this equation is almost irrelevant because it wasn't human effort that lifted the pyramid. It's not human effort that lifts a skyscraper because this is done with cranes. It wasn't human effort that lifted the pyramids. It was counterweights powered by water that existed at 81' 3" that lifted the pyramids. The equation still applies. It is still accurate. But it wasn't people tugging on ropes or stepping on counterweights that provided the power to lift the stones; the power came from water in the stars provided by the celestial cow and operated through the bull of heaven.
As an engineer you don't really need to understand my math. You can get to the same answer in any way you choose as I just skip to the bottom line. You can fixate on the result of stone movement on the moon* for all I care but I choose to let everything factor itself out and to toss out the insignificant in my calculations just as the builders tossed out a 64th.
*Curiously the tides get a little higher making building a little easier. (anything to save a ft grain or two) ;)
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> Water which has escaped, is harvesting. FYI, 4" of
> water per year would simply evaporate. Wiggle out
> of that one! And please, don't tell me it
> "magically appeared".
Their water was cool and effervescent. It appeared violently at 81' 3" because it was rapidly decarbonating as it shot out of the ground; out of the eye of horus.
> Concede the point. There was more water than you
> lead us to believe.
~120 ac ft/ yr.
> There is no "single" Mother nature rule
> that is being accounted for. There are multitudes
> of them.
Mother nature takes accounting of all the forces and processes acting on something. We don't need to worry about relativistic effects or tidal effects when building pyramids. We needn't concern ourselves with the buoyancy of stone in air. We don't need to make the virtually infinite number of calculations made by mother nature or we couldn't build a pyramid at all nor could we reverse engineer one. The only things you need to know to compute the work of lifting the stones is the weight, the height, and the efficiency. The weight is 6 1/2 million tons, the height is 150', and the only thing of interest here is the efficiency. If they used a method only "one tenth" efficient like ramps it would mean they'd have to do ten times as much work. If they used something highly efficient like just carrying the stones up it would increase work just a little. Of course it was "impossible" to just pick them up but this is to illustrate the point.
My contention is simply that even this equation is almost irrelevant because it wasn't human effort that lifted the pyramid. It's not human effort that lifts a skyscraper because this is done with cranes. It wasn't human effort that lifted the pyramids. It was counterweights powered by water that existed at 81' 3" that lifted the pyramids. The equation still applies. It is still accurate. But it wasn't people tugging on ropes or stepping on counterweights that provided the power to lift the stones; the power came from water in the stars provided by the celestial cow and operated through the bull of heaven.
As an engineer you don't really need to understand my math. You can get to the same answer in any way you choose as I just skip to the bottom line. You can fixate on the result of stone movement on the moon* for all I care but I choose to let everything factor itself out and to toss out the insignificant in my calculations just as the builders tossed out a 64th.
*Curiously the tides get a little higher making building a little easier. (anything to save a ft grain or two) ;)
Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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