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Author: Origyptian () wrote:
Date: January 07, 2017 05:57PM
Steve Clayton Wrote [to Spiros]:
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>
> The only evidence, some of my friends can point
> to, are examples of disbelief. No prof of any
> kind. Though it is intriguing, and in this arena
> acceptable. Without it, we likely would not have
> this forum.
>
> Until more than disbelief is used, I stay grounded
> in current beliefs. If anyone can prove me wrong,
> have at it.
I've said this several times already, but it warrants saying again...
The claim has been made that the Giza monuments were constructed in the 3rd millennium BC.
That claim has been challenged to produce direct physical evidence to substantiate it.
No one has yet to produce such "proof" in the evidence (e.g., IMO rope and tiny sleds don't come close to the threshold of "certainty" that precludes consideration of other pardigms)
Meanwhile, no evidence is required by the challenger when challenging someone else's claim.
Rather, the burden of proof lies solely on the shoulders of the claimant. And until such proof is presented, other paradigms warrant consideration.
The same goes for similar enigmas elsewhere in the world, not the least of which are the megaliths of Baalbek, the "tire tracks" in the bedrock of Turkey, and the bizarre stonework in the igneous Andes.
Having said that, I remain a huge fan of your funicular model and look forward to more. While I'm not as convinced as you that such a model existed during the 3rd millennium BC, I find its value to lie in its ability to present a credible system of tools and methods, and that's an enormous step in helping to wade through the fog that's built up in traditional thought over the centuries. It's unforunate that we don't see any direct evidence of such tools and methods from any eyewitness during that time.
Hi Origyptian,
Phil, I hope all is well.
Yes, it just conjecture all around. I am not standing up for current Egyptologist. How can I? They have not shown any evidence when the Pyramids and/or how they were built. I'm neutral until better evidence is presented. There are certainly plenty of mysteries
out there, and that is good. Makes life interesting.
I have been told.. A man who stands for nothing, falls for anything. Not sure how correct that is, though I do not believe the Pyramids were build by men pulling stones up ramps. I don't believe it, as no matter how I try, it doesn't add up. No scenario using math can make it a plausible possibility.
The Funicular has been fun, and I have achieved my goal. That goal was learning Sketchup, and I feel I have accomplished that task.
There is plenty of dirt yet uncovered on the Giza plateau. Hopefully, one day we will know.
How is your bass guitar playing coming along? I expect to hear from you one day, that you are up on stage in bright lights.
Date: January 07, 2017 05:57PM
Steve Clayton Wrote [to Spiros]:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> The only evidence, some of my friends can point
> to, are examples of disbelief. No prof of any
> kind. Though it is intriguing, and in this arena
> acceptable. Without it, we likely would not have
> this forum.
>
> Until more than disbelief is used, I stay grounded
> in current beliefs. If anyone can prove me wrong,
> have at it.
I've said this several times already, but it warrants saying again...
The claim has been made that the Giza monuments were constructed in the 3rd millennium BC.
That claim has been challenged to produce direct physical evidence to substantiate it.
No one has yet to produce such "proof" in the evidence (e.g., IMO rope and tiny sleds don't come close to the threshold of "certainty" that precludes consideration of other pardigms)
Meanwhile, no evidence is required by the challenger when challenging someone else's claim.
Rather, the burden of proof lies solely on the shoulders of the claimant. And until such proof is presented, other paradigms warrant consideration.
The same goes for similar enigmas elsewhere in the world, not the least of which are the megaliths of Baalbek, the "tire tracks" in the bedrock of Turkey, and the bizarre stonework in the igneous Andes.
Having said that, I remain a huge fan of your funicular model and look forward to more. While I'm not as convinced as you that such a model existed during the 3rd millennium BC, I find its value to lie in its ability to present a credible system of tools and methods, and that's an enormous step in helping to wade through the fog that's built up in traditional thought over the centuries. It's unforunate that we don't see any direct evidence of such tools and methods from any eyewitness during that time.
Hi Origyptian,
Phil, I hope all is well.
Yes, it just conjecture all around. I am not standing up for current Egyptologist. How can I? They have not shown any evidence when the Pyramids and/or how they were built. I'm neutral until better evidence is presented. There are certainly plenty of mysteries
out there, and that is good. Makes life interesting.
I have been told.. A man who stands for nothing, falls for anything. Not sure how correct that is, though I do not believe the Pyramids were build by men pulling stones up ramps. I don't believe it, as no matter how I try, it doesn't add up. No scenario using math can make it a plausible possibility.
The Funicular has been fun, and I have achieved my goal. That goal was learning Sketchup, and I feel I have accomplished that task.
There is plenty of dirt yet uncovered on the Giza plateau. Hopefully, one day we will know.
How is your bass guitar playing coming along? I expect to hear from you one day, that you are up on stage in bright lights.
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