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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > Merrell Wrote:
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> > > Origyptian Wrote:
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> > >
> > > > No document or
> > > > artifact from any designer, mason,
> architect,
> > or
> > > > public official attesting to the original
> > > > construction of any pyramid.
> > >
> > > Yes, there is, as pointed out
> > >
> >
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
>
> > 78751,1080063#msg-1080063]here[/url] by
> > Dr.Troglodyte,
> >
> citing[url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.ph
>
> > p?1,336040,336097#msg-336097]Tallet, p.
> 10.[/url]
> >
> > I don't consider that compelling evidence. The
> > comment by Tallet is pure speculation. Greg
> > Marouard made it very clear to me that this was
> > pure speculation. There is no evidence about
> the
> > volume of stones, the size of stones, the size
> of
> > the workforce, or any specific construction
> > project. Tallet even uses the word "probably"
> > without substantiating that contention. The
> > "Horizon of Khufu" may simply be a reference to
> a
> > project anywhere on the Giza plateau. And
> > "construction" does not mean an original
> project
> > to build a pyramid from bedrock. It could far
> more
> > easily be referring to restoration projects,
> the
> > construction of ancillary structures, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > > You
> >
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
>
> > 78751,1080143#msg-1080143]objected to
> this[/url]
> > > on the grounds that, in your view, the term
> > > "Horizon of Khufu" did not apply to the Great
> > > Pyramid.
> >
> > Well, I said it [i]did not necessarily refer
> > to[/i] the Great Pyramid. But yes, I agree with
> > that principle. And it's not just my view, your
> > own quote of Stadelmann seems to indicate he
> > agrees with me (see below).
> >
> >
> >
> > > Tallet illustrates the relevant extract from
> the
> > papyrus
> > >
> >
> [url=https://f.hypotheses.org/wp-content/blogs.dir
>
> >
> /2495/files/2015/02/Crai_13-2_Tallet-libre.pdf]her
>
> > e[/url] (1022-3) with the details of the text
> > > including "Horizon of Khufu."
> >
> > The papyrus was found in the rubble OUTSIDE of
> the
> > galleries. It could have been placed there at
> any
> > time over the past few millennia. This is not
> > evidence of the construction of G1 no matter
> how
> > you slice it. Tallet's leap to presumption is a
> > bit too grandiose for me (especially in light
> of
> > Marouard's attempt to temper Tallet's zealous
> > approach). Sorry, but Tallet's evidence is too
> > weak to cross the threshold of veracity.
> >
> >
> >
> > > The link between Akhet-Khufu and the GP is
> > discussed
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.gizapyramids.org/pdf_library/stade
>
> > lmann_pyramiden_80-158.pdf]here[/url] (105-6)
> by
> > > Stadelmann:
> > >
> > > [quote]Die Pyramidenanlage mit der
> > dazugehörigen
> > > Stadt und Königsresidenz erhielt den Namen
> > > Achet-Chufu, „Horizont des Cheops" , wobei
> > wohl
> > > an den westlichen Horizont, den Ort des
> > > Unterganges des Sonnengottes, gedacht ist,
> mit
> > dem
> > > der König sich noch direkt identifizierte.
> > >
> > > (The pyramid complex, with the city and royal
> > > residences, was named after the "horizon of
> the
> > > Cheops", probably the western horizon, the
> > place
> > > where the sun was dying, with which the king
> > was
> > > still directly identified.)[/quote]
> >
> > Yes, that's Stadelmann's interpretation. And he
> > openly acknowledges that "Horizon of Khufu"
> does
> > [i][u]not[/u][/i] specifically refer to G1
> itself.
> > Rather, the term encompasses the entire
> > infrastructure up there on the plateau which is
> > exactly my point. Any "construction" project
> going
> > on at the "Horizon of Khuf" could be adding
> > another layer to the city, new roads to
> > accommodate new expansion, restoring older
> > buildings, adding a wing onto the home of a new
> > official, building a new mastaba, etc. And
> let's
> > be careful about how literally we want to
> accept
> > such translations lest we are led off-road by
> such
> > notions as [i]"the place where the sun was
> > dying".[/i]
>
>
> Once again, this is the huge difference between
> passing your muster and satisfying the standards
> of evidence.

And once again, to what "standards" are you referring?