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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Dr. Trog
> Dr. Troglodyte ​wrote
> Date: April 03, 2018 07:08PM
> ​>​Hello Steve Clayton; you wrote: ”…The
> average mans weight is approx. 185 to 200
> lbs…”
>
> ​>​This statement references no informed
> source for the above assumption. Studies* indicate
> the body mass mean for “Non-elite”
> ​>​>males at Giza during the Old Kingdom to be
> 62.2 kg (132.72 lbs), a negative difference of
> nearly 60 pounds [average] per
> ​>​>constructor.
>
> ​>​Calculations influenced by the posted
> information are approximately 31% in error.
>
> ​>​*Egyptian Body Size: A Regional and
> Worldwide Comparison, Michelle H. Raxter,
> University of South Florida, 2011
>
>
>
> ​Hello ​Dr. Troglodyte​,
>
> I am happy to have you chime in. The exercise is,
> to see how practical using an (shaduf) inverted
> lever​, is when attempting to lift an average
> Pyramid stone. As the stone is 5,000lbs. (2.5
> tons) and the poll is 20 ft. long. The fulcrum
> point is at 75 percent. As you can see in the
> drawing below, converted to inches, it requires
> 1,666 lbs. to reach equilibrium. Using your
> ancient Egyptians @ 133 lbs., it would require
> 12.5 men hanging from the rope. Correct me if I am
> wrong, the Pyramid steps are only 2.5 - 3.0 feet
> wide. Placing a counterweight on one end, as used
> in a Shaduf, is impracticable, as you will need to
> lift that counterweight, using the opposite end.
> The levers mechanical advantage is now working
> against you.
>
> Possibly, there is some other method or
> combination, which would work better? If you only
> have 2.5 feet on on end, it drops down to 5 men.
> Still, you need to control the lift. The pole is
> over your head. How is that accomplished?
>
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Hello Steve Clayton:

We have had a similar discussion previously. The general answer remains…

Here, specifically, a number of erroneous assumptions regarding the ”means and methods” have been made. Petrie (Corrected Great Pyramid Course Elevations and Plate 8) illustrates the largest course of the Great Pyramid, above the base courses, is the 35th (+/- 49.5 inches thick average). This course represents approximately 50% of the stone required for the entire Pyramid’s construction. Likely to this level earthen and mud brick ramps were utilized to maneuver (‘lift’) the bulk of the large core and casing stones.





Above the 35th course, the majority of the stone units are approximately one (1) cubit high [Petrie] and weigh approximately one (1) ton [see Smith’s ratio, h:w:l = 1.0:1.33:2.0 cubits]; approximately 45.77% less than the speculated 5,000 pounds above (”…5,000lbs. (2.5 tons)…” The employment of ‘Shadfu crews’ (assuming the application) would have been most productive above this level.

Regarding these proposed Shadfu crews, the presumption of a single crew, of any size, is lacking; as is the area of the necessary staging zones (”…steps…only 2.5 - 3.0 feet wide…”). Two (2), perhaps four (4), crews (working on two levels of +/- 1 cubit apart vertically) could potentially operate independent machines on a single stone, simultaneously. Staging zones, placed strategically, would enable transportation at numerous locations on the structure.

Read Smith…



Dr. Troglodyte


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Pyramid Construction 8000 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1171 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1063 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 989 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 958 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 966 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 928 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 898 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 877 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 951 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 795 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 925 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 809 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 919 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 845 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 850 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 835 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 699 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 944 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 774 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 819 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 850 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 866 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 823 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 900 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 862 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 810 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 909 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 840 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 808 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 831 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 826 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 836 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 829 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 842 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 845 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 852 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 887 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 816 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 880 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 918 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 928 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 925 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
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Re: More Sand 830 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 821 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
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Re: More Sand 864 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
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Re: More Sand 693 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 818 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 788 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 823 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 778 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 804 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 771 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 899 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 884 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 767 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 851 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 755 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 815 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 836 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 758 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 764 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 781 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 988 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 967 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 795 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 985 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 888 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 872 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 814 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 855 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 758 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 885 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 833 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 875 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 806 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 847 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 768 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 826 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 875 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 976 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 934 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 847 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 813 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 760 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 736 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 846 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 791 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 812 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 1124 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 854 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 814 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 826 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 835 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 800 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 1282 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 782 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 848 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 877 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 801 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 778 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 803 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 888 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 811 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 875 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 780 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 847 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 743 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 781 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 841 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 765 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 792 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 762 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 833 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 757 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 836 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 717 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 685 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 727 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 650 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 824 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 691 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 849 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 709 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 761 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 775 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 707 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 757 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 795 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 775 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 631 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 774 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 759 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 785 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 725 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 777 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 670 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 786 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 820 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 713 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 707 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 720 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 758 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 724 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 742 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 718 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 701 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 670 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 665 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 885 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 753 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 698 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 639 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 697 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 700 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 688 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 718 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 769 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 682 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 689 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 668 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 748 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 689 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 724 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 679 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 584 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 755 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 624 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 766 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 762 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 895 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 770 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 734 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 750 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 728 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 762 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 860 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 918 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 934 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 723 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 635 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 676 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 918 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 844 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 724 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 866 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 691 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 742 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 793 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 747 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 511 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 654 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 781 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 865 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 719 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 916 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 815 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 850 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 805 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 774 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 778 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 749 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 764 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 916 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 727 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 618 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 714 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 795 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 744 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 775 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 895 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 861 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 736 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 751 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 985 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 906 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 728 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 1060 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 815 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 745 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 726 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1073 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 847 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 805 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 783 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1180 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 814 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 715 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 714 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 798 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 761 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 737 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 766 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 698 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 766 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 717 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 720 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 911 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 709 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 823 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 706 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 757 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 764 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 829 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 775 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 657 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 750 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 795 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 737 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 789 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 685 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 757 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 698 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 719 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 806 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 662 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 761 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 708 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 682 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 685 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 689 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 612 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 712 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 806 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 721 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 701 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 719 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 739 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 682 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 679 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 660 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 677 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 697 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 740 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 625 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 602 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 715 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 705 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 681 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 833 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 682 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 669 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 717 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 730 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 964 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 710 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 816 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 807 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 784 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 911 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 672 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 689 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 683 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 659 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 675 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 804 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 681 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 873 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 711 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 716 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 663 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 630 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 646 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 743 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 873 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 733 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 733 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 768 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 745 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 675 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 777 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 645 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 659 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 735 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 680 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 683 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 770 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 587 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 707 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 700 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 653 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 621 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 700 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 704 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 649 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 703 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 642 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 635 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 738 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 524 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 714 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 740 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 690 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 770 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 631 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 678 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 667 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 757 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 698 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 913 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 759 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 732 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 595 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 713 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 625 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 1023 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 699 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 709 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 734 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 851 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 748 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 720 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 722 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 731 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 788 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 698 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 849 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 827 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 760 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 787 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 747 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 762 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 674 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 746 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 774 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 746 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 769 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 759 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 814 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 752 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 790 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 825 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 702 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 655 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 668 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 585 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 620 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 461 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 485 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 574 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 674 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 576 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 481 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 571 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 507 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 469 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 523 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 562 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 533 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 533 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 549 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 672 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 466 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 533 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 571 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 591 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 614 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 461 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 495 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 503 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 673 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 645 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 519 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 526 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 635 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 688 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 504 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 510 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 500 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 524 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 573 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 497 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 497 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 510 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 534 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 525 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 600 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 521 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 625 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 507 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 485 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 590 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 484 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 493 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 511 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 566 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 458 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 487 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 481 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 503 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 457 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 527 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 452 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 493 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 513 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 485 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17