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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Thanos5150 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...
> > As far as whether or not it is a building, WTF
> am I doing here?
> > ...
> > But this is not a building to some of you:

> > ...
> > There is no source on the planet that does not
> > recognize the serekh palace facade building or
> the
> > PF building found on sarcophagi and tombs as
> > buildings. It is part and parcel of DE culture
> for
> > 3,000yrs. To suggest otherwise is not just a
> > non-starter, but a disqualifier.
>
> To me, the issue in this discussion isn't a
> question of whether this or that ancient
> architectural artifact has a design that resembles
> the palace facade on the serekh. The issue is
> whether the building design or the design on the
> serekh came first.
>
> Has it been deterimned that the pattern on the
> building preceeded the pattern on the serekh? In
> other words, how do we know that the culture that
> built those earliest examples of the palace facade
> into their architecture weren't simply mimicing
> the design in the serekh (e.g., created by a
> previous culture) rather than vice versa? It's an
> issue of whether the serekh design was created
> before or after the architectural design.
>
> Does the earliest example of a palace facade
> aritecture precede the earliest example of the
> palace facade on a serekh?

Origyptian


Jeepers creepers!

Now you might think this is sycophantic ... or is it 'chest bashing'.... you call it?

However Thanos having already made exasperated comment above in bold WTF!? .....
In an attempt to save Thanos the embarrassment of having to be reduced to making a personal assertion/claim on largely his own work or representation, and despite that you ignore me generally (no problem there) ....I will try as politely as possible

Firstly, I asked a somewhat similar type question of Thanos some long long 5yrs? ago.

From very distant memory
Q (Something naïve like) "Thanos5150... great work yada yada... I am wondering if there is a specific building in Mesopotamia that the style is based on?
Answer: (Something like:) ....not one specific first building identified as still extant, but it singular may have existed. However there are rather many of them, both in ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt that conform to the general style.

Now for an analogy to see if this gets through?:


Are you familiar with British Royal Coat of Arms ? Here

Now the British Lion has been there for nearly a thousand years but with many variations etc

Denotes a royal personage (analogy serekh)

Now pretend that for a thousand years instead of Lion etc that Buckingham palace façade was always on the CoA (analogy Palace façade)



Then not only that but it is discovered that back in ancient Gaul / Normandy (France) before Norman invasion their kings also had a crest with similar looking façade.




What do you reckon? Would they make the symbolic identifying crest Coat of Arms, out of a dreamt up, yet to be made imaginary building, or would the building in some form have been built or likely come first?

Try to run that through the super logical think tank!

What you are likely asking though is has one or the other extant examples of either been found and dated dated as original and first?
Well unless you have had a major change of perception or brain transplant recently, you almost invariably habitually doubt or dispute virtually any or most dating offered by any professional Archaeologist's or Egyptologist's anyway !

Or you might be alluding perhaps to this phenomena had nothing to do with either very ancient Mesopotamian or Egyptian cultures but belongs to a non attested unrelated "other" culture. This you will have to produce the evidence for yourself. Suggest start looking and digging at GT or Turkey!

Now has that 'new brain' clicked into gear yet?..... and realised you are posting in the wrong thread?

Whilst I'm at it

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Origyptian from Mastaba thread
An adequate hypothesis for the initial use (Dyn 0 & 1) of the serekh needs to explain not only the inclusion of Horus, but also entire enclosure complete with couryard, the uraeus in the courtyard, and the use of a place facade to represent the enclosed building rather than a better depiction of the actual structure at that end of the enclosure. From what I can tell, the earliest architectural examples of the palace facade is a very simple pleating of an enclosure wall, so why make the enclosure wall a straight line in the serekh rather than a rippled line indicating the pleating? Why focus on the engineering aspects of the surrounding wall rather than a more "meaningful" architectural feature of the building within that enclosure -- have any Dynasty 0 or Dynasty 1 buildings themselves (not the pleated enclosure wall) been found with a palace facade design

It appears to me that you somewhat misunderstand what you are looking at. in reference to Djet serekh

The façade part is not plan view it is elevation view (façade) the glyph you refer to as "uraeus" is simply Djet Horus name . It is fair to think the "courtyard" is plan view and enclosure wall , as some describe it like that but it is the outline forming a place that later serekhs included the glyph spelling of Kings Horus name were enclosed /written (previously outside or alongside. It also forms a perch for the almighty perhaps celestial symbol of royal power /God affiliated sanction the Horus falcon. Seen also in Mesopotamian art iconery symbols all over in somewhat different form.


Ok at least if I have made mistakes, I feel maybe if I ask nicely, Thanos will correct me. But my guess ....don't count on it.

I hope that helps the nagging dilemma?
Cheers

Edit PS: Now if you are thinking of a nah nah 'come back' something like.... there are no Lions in Britain or definitely no unicorns in Scotland! Then..... do you think they could have made a wild guess and dreamt up what a big cat might look like sight unseen and struck it lucky and it turned out consistent or they later bred or imported them , or that mythical unicorns were not already folklore before it made the Scottish Royal CoA?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05-Apr-18 07:24 by Corpuscles.

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Re: In A Cemetery 573 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 549 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
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Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 616 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 560 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
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Re: In A Cemetery 638 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 514 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 640 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 642 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 651 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 616 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 632 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 649 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 632 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 707 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 693 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 606 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 528 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 547 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 672 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 664 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 599 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 715 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 586 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 622 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 596 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
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Re: Pyramid Construction 687 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 696 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 713 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 690 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
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Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 607 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
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Re: Pyramid Construction 636 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
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Re: Pyramid Construction 611 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
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Re: G3 Exposed 681 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
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Re: G3 Exposed 687 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
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Re: G3 Exposed 615 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
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Re: Pyramid Construction 602 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
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Re: Pyramid Construction 640 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 597 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 656 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 589 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 647 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 631 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
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correction 550 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
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Re: correction 694 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 570 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 749 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 589 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 583 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 545 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 505 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 541 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 621 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 529 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 625 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 599 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 624 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 624 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 560 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 660 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 533 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 545 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 596 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 565 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 558 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 637 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 460 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 595 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 560 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 532 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 500 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 574 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 566 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 532 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 585 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 520 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 522 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 613 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 399 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 602 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 630 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 576 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 627 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 515 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 548 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 554 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 627 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 587 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 633 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 626 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 617 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 480 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 589 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 496 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 622 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 583 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 556 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 621 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 736 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 631 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 609 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 607 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 617 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 642 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 572 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 673 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 654 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 630 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 636 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 527 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 613 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 649 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 631 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 654 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 648 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 709 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 643 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 677 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 587 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 436 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 407 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 374 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 402 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 396 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 435 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 429 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 367 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 393 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 399 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 361 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 413 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 417 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 423 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 433 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 356 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 359 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 443 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 458 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 392 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 461 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 377 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 391 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 415 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 390 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 490 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 393 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 365 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 378 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 377 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 366 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 377 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 384 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 446 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 384 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 421 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 419 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 485 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 392 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 385 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 385 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 364 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 388 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 382 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 387 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 384 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 444 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 359 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 366 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 368 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 353 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 344 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 389 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 338 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 358 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22