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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Thanos5150 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...
> > As far as whether or not it is a building, WTF
> am I doing here?
> > ...
> > But this is not a building to some of you:

> > ...
> > There is no source on the planet that does not
> > recognize the serekh palace facade building or
> the
> > PF building found on sarcophagi and tombs as
> > buildings. It is part and parcel of DE culture
> for
> > 3,000yrs. To suggest otherwise is not just a
> > non-starter, but a disqualifier.
>
> To me, the issue in this discussion isn't a
> question of whether this or that ancient
> architectural artifact has a design that resembles
> the palace facade on the serekh. The issue is
> whether the building design or the design on the
> serekh came first.
>
> Has it been deterimned that the pattern on the
> building preceeded the pattern on the serekh? In
> other words, how do we know that the culture that
> built those earliest examples of the palace facade
> into their architecture weren't simply mimicing
> the design in the serekh (e.g., created by a
> previous culture) rather than vice versa? It's an
> issue of whether the serekh design was created
> before or after the architectural design.
>
> Does the earliest example of a palace facade
> aritecture precede the earliest example of the
> palace facade on a serekh?

Origyptian


Jeepers creepers!

Now you might think this is sycophantic ... or is it 'chest bashing'.... you call it?

However Thanos having already made exasperated comment above in bold WTF!? .....
In an attempt to save Thanos the embarrassment of having to be reduced to making a personal assertion/claim on largely his own work or representation, and despite that you ignore me generally (no problem there) ....I will try as politely as possible

Firstly, I asked a somewhat similar type question of Thanos some long long 5yrs? ago.

From very distant memory
Q (Something naïve like) "Thanos5150... great work yada yada... I am wondering if there is a specific building in Mesopotamia that the style is based on?
Answer: (Something like:) ....not one specific first building identified as still extant, but it singular may have existed. However there are rather many of them, both in ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt that conform to the general style.

Now for an analogy to see if this gets through?:


Are you familiar with British Royal Coat of Arms ? Here

Now the British Lion has been there for nearly a thousand years but with many variations etc

Denotes a royal personage (analogy serekh)

Now pretend that for a thousand years instead of Lion etc that Buckingham palace façade was always on the CoA (analogy Palace façade)



Then not only that but it is discovered that back in ancient Gaul / Normandy (France) before Norman invasion their kings also had a crest with similar looking façade.




What do you reckon? Would they make the symbolic identifying crest Coat of Arms, out of a dreamt up, yet to be made imaginary building, or would the building in some form have been built or likely come first?

Try to run that through the super logical think tank!

What you are likely asking though is has one or the other extant examples of either been found and dated dated as original and first?
Well unless you have had a major change of perception or brain transplant recently, you almost invariably habitually doubt or dispute virtually any or most dating offered by any professional Archaeologist's or Egyptologist's anyway !

Or you might be alluding perhaps to this phenomena had nothing to do with either very ancient Mesopotamian or Egyptian cultures but belongs to a non attested unrelated "other" culture. This you will have to produce the evidence for yourself. Suggest start looking and digging at GT or Turkey!

Now has that 'new brain' clicked into gear yet?..... and realised you are posting in the wrong thread?

Whilst I'm at it

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Origyptian from Mastaba thread
An adequate hypothesis for the initial use (Dyn 0 & 1) of the serekh needs to explain not only the inclusion of Horus, but also entire enclosure complete with couryard, the uraeus in the courtyard, and the use of a place facade to represent the enclosed building rather than a better depiction of the actual structure at that end of the enclosure. From what I can tell, the earliest architectural examples of the palace facade is a very simple pleating of an enclosure wall, so why make the enclosure wall a straight line in the serekh rather than a rippled line indicating the pleating? Why focus on the engineering aspects of the surrounding wall rather than a more "meaningful" architectural feature of the building within that enclosure -- have any Dynasty 0 or Dynasty 1 buildings themselves (not the pleated enclosure wall) been found with a palace facade design

It appears to me that you somewhat misunderstand what you are looking at. in reference to Djet serekh

The façade part is not plan view it is elevation view (façade) the glyph you refer to as "uraeus" is simply Djet Horus name . It is fair to think the "courtyard" is plan view and enclosure wall , as some describe it like that but it is the outline forming a place that later serekhs included the glyph spelling of Kings Horus name were enclosed /written (previously outside or alongside. It also forms a perch for the almighty perhaps celestial symbol of royal power /God affiliated sanction the Horus falcon. Seen also in Mesopotamian art iconery symbols all over in somewhat different form.


Ok at least if I have made mistakes, I feel maybe if I ask nicely, Thanos will correct me. But my guess ....don't count on it.

I hope that helps the nagging dilemma?
Cheers

Edit PS: Now if you are thinking of a nah nah 'come back' something like.... there are no Lions in Britain or definitely no unicorns in Scotland! Then..... do you think they could have made a wild guess and dreamt up what a big cat might look like sight unseen and struck it lucky and it turned out consistent or they later bred or imported them , or that mythical unicorns were not already folklore before it made the Scottish Royal CoA?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05-Apr-18 07:24 by Corpuscles.

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Re: In A Cemetery 668 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
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He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 659 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
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Re: In A Cemetery 733 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 604 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 745 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 742 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 800 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 750 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 712 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 730 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 708 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 742 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 765 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
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Re: In A Cemetery 872 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 701 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 616 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 647 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 836 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 783 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 697 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 827 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
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Animal Fat for Lube?!? 785 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
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Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 695 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
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Re: Pyramid Construction 733 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
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Re: Pyramid Construction 714 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
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Re: G3 Exposed 1021 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 794 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
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Re: G3 Exposed 705 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
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Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 762 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
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NO 698 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
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Re: Pyramid Construction 825 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 689 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 753 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 686 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 737 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 738 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
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Re: correction 668 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 662 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 640 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 648 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 784 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 660 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 850 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 691 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 695 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 642 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 608 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 624 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 718 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 748 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 713 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 711 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 738 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 725 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 656 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 756 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 625 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 639 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 710 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 659 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 658 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 746 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 566 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 687 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 648 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 633 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 602 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 672 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 672 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 629 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 682 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 623 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 615 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 716 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 502 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 695 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 720 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 669 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 739 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 610 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 654 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 647 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 732 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 678 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 801 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 734 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 712 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 574 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 692 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 604 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 883 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 678 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 676 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 713 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 831 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 725 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 700 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 701 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 710 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 762 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 676 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 801 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 805 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 740 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 767 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 728 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 741 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 624 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 717 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 753 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 725 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 749 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 739 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 795 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 733 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 770 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 804 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 681 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 596 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 604 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 463 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 453 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 487 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 565 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 474 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 481 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 465 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 485 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 600 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 542 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 461 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 503 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 488 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 449 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 503 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 456 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 542 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 584 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 481 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 588 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 456 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 452 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 458 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 547 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 576 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 475 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 484 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 589 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 618 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 499 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 499 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 628 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 485 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 452 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 472 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 500 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 534 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 478 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 474 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 485 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 513 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 505 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 578 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 497 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 537 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 486 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 457 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 498 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 465 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 472 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 485 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 546 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 438 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 466 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 461 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 441 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 435 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 499 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 431 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 466 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22