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I was half way through a response and one of my dogs who likes to sleep under my desk bumped my computer power cable and my computer shut off. Grrr.

Origyptian Wrote:
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> I hear you, but that's speculation, not physical
> evidence of the core tower principle. If that
> mastaba was first built into its own step pyramid,
> that still doesn't provide for a central "core
> tower".

We don't know what the mastaba was built into exactly as this in and of itself is speculation. To test the theory as it applies to Saqqara first I have to ask is it even possible which it is. Until I go there and start taking it apart I have to leave it at that.

> As I said, the fact that some pyramids are
> still standing relatively intact might be an
> indication that they were NOT of the "core tower"
> design. At least not like Meidum with its failed
> outer skin(s).

This is a reasonable concern and the fact is G1 and G2 would be some kind of variation to this theme as they were built incorporating bedrock formations which we know began as courses. But as I said, G3 and every other non-ruined exposed large pyrmaid shows some form of tower/stepped core and G1 it has been argued by some was built around a stepped core which the gravimetric scan gives further credence to this.

> Again, you're exrapolating from Meidum to the
> satellite and haven't shown that the upper walls
> of the satellite extend down into the step such
> that the step is a separate skin added onto a
> central core tower. Otherwise, that upper
> structure might simply be the middle step of a
> three step pyramid, the blocks of the top step
> being severely eroded and/or pilfered.




We can clearly see a tower core in G1b (middle). There is no way if built in horizontal rows that what is left over would be a nice tidy tower core. To compare this to the pyramid to the right it seems quite clear to me the other "steps" were later added around the core then the sloping layer of the true pyrmaid added to that. This is the progression of pyramid building that I see again and again. Meidum's tower core has "steps" as well which at the very least would have been the first foundational "step", the tower, then the top step or two.


> As I said, the "core tower" model requires that
> the courses of an independent inner tower were
> first constructed and then subsequently added onto
> by applying one or more outer skins onto the
> existing inner tower structure. For that to be
> proven as fact it must first be verified that the
> outer walls of the inner tower structure continue
> down into the depths of the courses of the outer
> layer(s) that was added on afterwards such that
> the outer walls could slough off as we see at
> Meidum. Ergo "pit within the fruit", "skins of a
> square onion", etc.

I see. As I say above this seems quite clear.

> It's difficult to assess from the photo you posted
> since the viewpoint seems to indicate more than
> one "step" was revealed by that gash. It's not
> clear to me that what's exposed is a single
> vertical wall. What I'm seeing in the lower aspect
> of that gash is a step protruding out from the
> upper vertical wall. But maybe not. Do you know of
> any other photos that might reveal the contours of
> that exposed gash in comparative detail, perhaps
> from a slightly different viewpoint?

Here.
Here.

Basic eonsiderations on the construetion of pyramids in the Old
Kingdom


Again, the idea of G3 having a stepped core is not unique to me.

> I'm not as optimistic; I still see a lot of
> extrapolation and assumptions being made; it's not
> all based on direct definitive observations of the
> physical evidence in each pyramid.

What we can directly observe is that the outer pyramid layer was added to a stepped core. Optimism is not required, just eyeballs. All I have added to this fact is the idea that a tower was built first, which like Medium also has steps, and that any lower levels of steps were added after to facilitate the structural integrity and construction of the true pyramid outer layer.

> Sorry to belabor the point, but the G3 gash seems
> ambiguous (to me at least so far) and could be
> showing a couple of inner steps rather than a
> single vertical core. In that case, the outer
> pyramid skin might have been added onto the step
> format as a final stage of contemporaneous
> (original) construction and not necessarily by an
> adaption (or even adoption) culture.

As I have argued before, I do not agree with this and suggest there was an original core structure at G3 that was later converted to a pyramid.

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Pyramid Construction 7208 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1034 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 939 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 868 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 839 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 813 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 717 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 782 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 750 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 727 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 662 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 804 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 689 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 795 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 730 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 723 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 723 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 813 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 656 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 693 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 728 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 747 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 676 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 772 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 728 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 693 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 733 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 719 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 695 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 714 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 710 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 703 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 707 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 728 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 717 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 729 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 761 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 682 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 752 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 793 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 800 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 801 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 741 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 732 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 708 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 739 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 712 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 649 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 668 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 702 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 697 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 659 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 644 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 678 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 659 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 729 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 674 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 636 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 560 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 696 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 656 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 708 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 656 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 687 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 624 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 774 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 691 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 655 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 734 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 587 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 677 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 701 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 650 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 647 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 664 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 759 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 811 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 661 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 798 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 757 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 751 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 680 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 729 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 648 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 745 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 708 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 728 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 675 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 720 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 652 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 704 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 739 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 700 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 805 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 731 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 598 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 641 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 623 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 715 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 660 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 917 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 724 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 635 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 702 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 706 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 698 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 670 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 768 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 658 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 716 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 686 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 663 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 645 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 678 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 753 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 659 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 754 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 645 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 720 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 618 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 675 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 729 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 656 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 674 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 641 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 702 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 635 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 729 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 605 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 559 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 604 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 546 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 639 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 571 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 647 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 591 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 627 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 644 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 590 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 639 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 644 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 652 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 524 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 641 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 632 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 646 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 608 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 632 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 544 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 643 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 689 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 601 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 585 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 591 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 623 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 607 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 617 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 593 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 580 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 550 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 532 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 580 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 609 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 570 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 519 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 576 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 566 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 567 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 589 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 644 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 571 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 549 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 541 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 630 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 563 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 616 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 560 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 475 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 637 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 514 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 640 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 641 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 651 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 615 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 631 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 649 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 632 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 706 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 693 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 605 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 528 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 546 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 671 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 664 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 599 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 715 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 586 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 622 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 596 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 620 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 399 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 520 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 756 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 687 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 696 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 713 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 690 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 660 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 650 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 628 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 647 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 792 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 615 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 505 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 606 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 677 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 662 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 655 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 637 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 611 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 597 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 782 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 680 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 619 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 843 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 687 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 616 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 614 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 800 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 658 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 691 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 672 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 849 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 678 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 609 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 616 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 591 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 623 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 653 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 627 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 602 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 607 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 631 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 644 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 639 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 596 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 655 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 589 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 646 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 631 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 649 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 653 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 674 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 618 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 636 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 639 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 589 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 595 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 549 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 622 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 591 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 575 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 587 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 580 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 468 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 593 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 588 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 609 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 538 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 603 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 620 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 566 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 554 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 530 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 562 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 582 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 603 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 524 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 493 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 604 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 592 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 579 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 612 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 577 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 538 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 530 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 617 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 628 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 582 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 706 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 684 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 673 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 787 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 554 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 572 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 573 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 536 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 551 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 694 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 570 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 749 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 588 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 583 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 545 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 505 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 541 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 621 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 529 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 625 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 598 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 623 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 623 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 560 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 660 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 532 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 544 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 596 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 564 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 558 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 637 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 460 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 595 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 559 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 532 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 499 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 573 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 566 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 532 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 585 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 519 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 522 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 613 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 399 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 602 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 629 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 576 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 626 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 515 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 548 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 554 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 626 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 587 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 633 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 626 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 615 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 479 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 589 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 496 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 621 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 583 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 554 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 621 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 735 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 631 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 609 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 606 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 617 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 640 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 571 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 671 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 653 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 629 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 635 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 527 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 613 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 630 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 654 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 648 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 708 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 643 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 677 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 707 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 587 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 533 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 436 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 407 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 374 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 392 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 435 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 429 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 366 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 393 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 399 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 361 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 413 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 435 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 433 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 417 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 444 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 351 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 355 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 442 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 455 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 392 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 461 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 377 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 390 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 412 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 389 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 490 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 393 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 365 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 377 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 377 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 364 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 377 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 384 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 384 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 421 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 418 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 484 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 390 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 385 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 385 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 364 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 388 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 382 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 387 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 382 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 443 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 359 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 366 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 368 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 353 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 343 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 389 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 337 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 358 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 391 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15