> Origyptian Wrote:
> > Funny. Could also be the industrial district
> > located at the outskirts of the big city, for food
> > processing, textile manufacturing, construction
> > materials production, animal husbandry, etc. to
> > service the local "metropolis". And yet even if it
> > was an OK cemetery for a smaller support
> > workforce, i.e., for custodial and restoration
> > purposes related to the already ancient pyramid,
> > where are the bodies?
> What is your malfunction? Despite the fact these
> things have been talked about here many times
> before it is amazing how much you simply refuse to
> educate yourself, or be educated, on even the most
> fundamental of topics yet somehow only you are the
> only one who has it all figured out despite
> purposefully knowing nothing? It's frickin
> Workers cemetery:
Based on the pottery, names, and titles
> found in association with the tombs, the cemetery
> was begun as early as the reign of Khufu in
> Dynasty 4 and continued through the end of Dynasty
> 5, from ca. 2551 to 2323 B.C. The cemetery
> probably extends across the escarpment above the
> low desert plain where we have found production
> and storage facilities. It seems to be an Old
> Kingdom version of the New Kingdom (ca.1500-1163
> B.C.) cemetery at Deir el-Medineh, where workers
> who excavated and decorated the royal tombs in the
> Valley of the Kings were buried. We believe that
> so far we have found only 20 percent of the tombs
> buried under the sand along this slope.
> None of the workers was mummified, a prerogative
> of royalty and nobility, but many tombs in this
> cemetery contained skeletal remains that tell us
> much about the lives of these people. Study of the
> remains by Azza Sarry el-Din and Fawziya Hussein
> of Egypt's National Research Center reveals that
> males and females were equally represented, mostly
> buried in fetal positions, with face to the east
> and head to the north. Many of the men died
> between age 30 and 35. Below the age of 30 a
> higher mortality was found in females than in
> males, a statistic undoubtedly reflecting the
> hazards of childbirth.
> [Bodies found within the main cemetery]
> Skeletons from the great mastaba cemetery west
> of the Khufu pyramid, in which members of the
> upper class were buried, reflect a healthier
> population whose women lived five to ten years
> longer than those of the artisan and worker
> Degenerative arthritis occurred in the vertebral
> column, particularly in the lumbar region, and in
> the knees. It was frequent and more severe than in
> the skeletons from the mastaba cemetery. Skeletons
> of both men and women, particularly those from the
> lower burials, show such signs of heavy labor.
> Simple and multiple limb fractures were found in
> skeletons from both the lower and upper burials.
> The most frequent were fractures of the ulna and
> radius, the bones of the upper arm, and of the
> fibula, the more delicate of the two lower leg
> bones. Most of the fractures had healed
> completely, with good realignment of the bone,
> indicating that the fractures had been set with a
> splint. We found two cases, both male, that
> suggested amputation, of a left leg and a right
> arm. The healed ends of the bones indicate that
> the amputations were successful. Few other cases
> of amputation have been recorded in Egyptian
> archaeology. Depressed fractures of the frontal or
> parietal skull bones were found in skulls of both
> males and females. The parietal lesions tended to
> be left-sided, which may indicate that the
> injuries resulted from face to face assault by
> right-handed attackers.
> We should contrast the evidence of the tombs and
> of medical treatment with the notion that pharaohs
> used slave labor to build the giant pyramids, an
> idea as old as Herodotus. The scenario of
> whip-drive slaves received support from the
> biblical account of Moses and the Exodus and the
> first-century A.D. historian Josephus. In our era,
> Cecil B. de Mille's galvanizing screen images
> reinforced this popular misconception.
> > So sure, it "could be" a lot of things. But
> > what does the evidence say about what it "is be"?
> When you know nothing and refuse to educate
> yourself or be educated apparently it can be
> whatever one wants it to be. Which seems to be the
> only point of remaining ignorant.
Hilarious. By Hawass, no less. I'm sure you take that on its face to be an objective assessment of the evidence. No assumptions made at all, eh? All backed up by methods that assure provenance. I'm quite sure Hawass used his beloved RCD methods to indisputably determine that those cemeteries were built in the OK to entomb pyramid builders.
Somehow I don't think I'm the one that's uneducated about what's really going on in that traditional narrative. By asking where all the bodies are, I'm not denying any were found, I'm forcing the point about whether any bodies worked on constructing any pyramids. Where are the bodies of those who built the pyramid? What does the evidence say? What is the evidence that they gladly gave themselves up for the cause? For example, all that evidence of physical strife seen in the bones of those bodies surely speak to how civil and humanely those citizens were treated by the labor authorities, right? No signs of any crimes against humanity at all, eh? Meanwhile, any industrial-grade tools found? Any logistics and methods documented? Any description of how those injuries were incurred? Any graphic depiction of what those workers actually did during their day? Any evidence at all of any pyramid being constructed or that the burials were in any way associated with even maintaining or restoring a pyramid, let alone building one from scratch?
And so we see Hawass make the following metal leap in logic:
- "Pieces of granite, basalt, and diorite, stones used in the pyramid temples, had been incorporated into the walls [of Ptah-shepsesu's tomb]. Such material suggests that some tombs in the cemetery may belong to the pyramid builders or succeeding generations of workers who made use of stone left over from the construction of the pyramids, temples, and tombs."
How about this alternative: Ptah-shepsesu used those pieces of various stones because they were handy and didn't have to quarry them himself but, rather, he simply repurposed stones that were quarried and shaped by others in an earlier time. I mean, why would a respectable citizen who lived contemporaneous to the pyramid resort to pillaging pieces of stone from the contemporary royal temples in the area? Why does it not make much more sense that he simply repurposed pre-fabbed stone from a nearby abandoned building for his own use?
It's as if you're trying to prove my own case for me.
How can any of us ever know, when all we can do is think?
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 20-Dec-16 23:57 by Origyptian.